AVENGERS: DOOMSDAY - Rumored Details On Doctor Doom's Powers And Nefarious Connection To [SPOILER]

AVENGERS: DOOMSDAY - Rumored Details On Doctor Doom's Powers And Nefarious Connection To [SPOILER]

We have some rumored details on Doctor Doom's role in Avengers: Doomsday here, and it sounds like the villain will enhance his power set after coming into contact with a certain ring-wielding hero...

By MarkCassidy - Sep 16, 2025 10:09 PM EST
Filed Under: Avengers: Doomsday

Robert Downey Jr.'s Doctor Doom is obviously shaping up to be an incredibly powerful new villain for the Marvel Cinematic Universe, and a recent synopsis confirmed that he will utilize a mixture of "cutting-edge science and powerful magic" to "unleash a cascading crisis across the entire multiverse."

Last week, we got what we assumed to be our first look at Doom's character design for Avengers: Doomsday via some promo art, and the accompanying light show video appeared to feature the villain wielding Shang-Chi's (Simu Liu) Ten Rings.

In his latest Q&A, The Cosmic Circus' Alex Perez shared some new details on how Doom plans to enhance his abilities, and it sounds like he will indeed target the Master of Kung Fu to acquire the ancient and incredibly powerful Ta Lo artefacts.

Perez begins by mentioning that Shang-Chi will mostly be used as "comic relief" in Doomsday, presumably after Doom relieves him of those Rings!

"He may feel a bit out of place because it’ll be his first time being in a large group of super-powered heroes. Although I do have to say, did you see Doom’s recent design from the Disney 2026 Merchandise Expo in China? Shoooooot. Not the 1:1 design they’ll use in Doomsday, but it’s close. Say, upon closer inspection, doesn’t that Plackart Doom have on his abdomen look mighty interesting? It almost looks like you could bounce a ring off it. Or 10."

Perez also describes Doom as, "a man scorned by the incursions that are happening across the multiverse, dooming countless realities, and he wants to bring an end to that by any means necessary."

Previous rumors have claimed that Liu would have had a major role in Avengers: The Kang Dynasty before Marvel pivoted to Doom, so this sounds like it might be a bit of a downgrade for Shang-Chi. Still, Doom wielding the Ten Rings along with the rest of the tech he's acquired on his travels should make him a big bad for the ages.

Avengers: Doomsday and Avengers: Secret Wars were recently hit with significant delays, with Doomsday now set to arrive in theaters on December 18, 2026, and Secret Wars positioned for December 17, 2027.

Both movies will be directed by the Russo brothers, who also make their MCU return after helming Captain America: The Winter Soldier, Captain America: Civil War, Avengers: Infinity War and Avengers: Endgame

"Being able to create stories and explore characters within the Marvel Universe fulfilled a life-long dream of ours, and we discovered a powerful connection with audiences in each film that we made. We’re thrilled to collaborate once again with Kevin, Lou and the entire Marvel team to bring this epic adventure in storytelling to new and surprising places for both the fans and ourselves”, said The Russos in a statement after the SDCC panel.

You can check out the full (for now) Doomsday cast list below.

• Paul Rudd as Ant-Man

• Simu Liu as Shang-Chi

• Tom Hiddleston as Loki

• Lewis Pullman as Sentry

• Florence Pugh as Yelena

• Danny Ramirez as Falcon

• Ian McKellen as Magneto

• Sebastian Stan as Bucky

• Winston Duke as M’Baku

• Chris Hemsworth as Thor

• Kelsey Grammer as Beast

• James Marsden as Cyclops

• Channing Tatum as Gambit

• Wyatt Russell as U.S. Agent

• Vanessa Kirby as Sue Storm

• Rebecca Romijn as Mystique

• Patrick Stewart as Professor X

• Alan Cumming as Nightcrawler

• Letitia Wright as Black Panther

• Tenoch Huerta Mejia as Namor

• Pedro Pascal as Reed Richards

• Hannah John-Kamen as Ghost

• Joseph Quinn as Johnny Storm

• David Harbour as Red Guardian

• Robert Downey Jr as Doctor Doom

• Ebon Moss-Bachrach as The Thing

• Anthony Mackie as Captain America

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SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 9/16/2025, 10:08 PM
Why would Shang Chi be used as comic relief? Without his ten rings he is still an incredible hand to hand combatant. That's like saying "Daredevil will be comic relief because Doom takes his Billy clubs away".
Vigor
Vigor - 9/16/2025, 10:11 PM
@SonOfAGif - exactly why I read this as bull shit
SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 9/16/2025, 10:15 PM
@Vigor - Marvel Studios has its comic relief characters with Ms. Marvel, Ant-Man, Rocket, Deadpool, She-Hulk, Red Guardian, Bob, Human Torch, Thing, US Agent, and Gambit. Why do they need to take one of the more hardened heroes and turn them into a comedian when they have an abundance of those co-existing in the same movie?
Android
Android - 9/17/2025, 4:18 AM
@SonOfAGif - given he'd be facing a man who can qualify as sorcerer supreme in several other universe AND depending on who's writing said to be smarter than Reed or Stark....mastery of Kung Fu ain't gonna cut it .
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 9/17/2025, 4:36 AM
@Android - Kung Fu may not cut it power wise, but of all the main characters he isn't high on the list of being comedic is more the point here, that fell more to his female sidekick. Thor has been WAY more comedic than Shang Chi was and even he is topped by Antman and Starlord in that regard generaly speaking so of all those who could be the comedic relief...

...all that said the Russos tend to not go overboard on comedic anyway and all can have their moments of levity in their films so generaly think this is being over stated either way.
Android
Android - 9/21/2025, 5:58 PM
@Apophis71 - I mean this version of Shang Chi is a pretty big joke(to me),.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 9/21/2025, 7:03 PM
@Android - Maybe but he had at least two of the top five best fight sequences ever in the MCU prior to the rings (Bus Fight and scaffolding ones that is) in his only film and no more out of place than Hawkeye and Black Widow were in Avengers movies so we'll see :D
TheJester187
TheJester187 - 9/16/2025, 10:13 PM
A lot going on in this shit. I can see the opening scene with Doom just releasing all types of chaos and poets in some dark shit. Can’t wait. Still the second most anticipated film of the decade behind The Batman 2.
TheJester187
TheJester187 - 9/16/2025, 10:14 PM
@TheJester187 - *powers
Fogs
Fogs - 9/17/2025, 1:05 AM
@TheJester187 - if he utters poetry while attacking the heroes it could work, too. It's kinda his gig 😂
Vigor
Vigor - 9/17/2025, 2:18 AM
@Fogs - lol
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 9/17/2025, 2:35 AM
@TheJester187 - I'm a DC guy tried and true. But, behind The Batman Part II?
That's insane.
HammerLegFoot
HammerLegFoot - 9/16/2025, 10:15 PM
How do they become “reliable insiders”? They pay for this info from people working on these projects?
Huskers
Huskers - 9/16/2025, 10:22 PM
I’ve always thought those magical rings were a stupid idea!
Biggums
Biggums - 9/17/2025, 12:09 AM
@Huskers - ben Kingsley is the worst thing about that film. Shockingly
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 9/17/2025, 2:36 AM
@Biggums - I still loved IM3. But, I'm just a casual Marvel fan
clogan
clogan - 9/16/2025, 11:00 PM
I hear @Gusto can also fit 10 rings on his schlong.
Biggums
Biggums - 9/17/2025, 12:12 AM
@clogan - ha! not without his trimix
DocSpock
DocSpock - 9/16/2025, 11:11 PM

Shang-chi is a great comics character. Cretton did a bad job on that movie. It was okay for a while, but the last half was terrible.

And they give him Spider-Man. This is a HUGE mistake. I hope they keep a very tight rein on him before he kills the billion dollar Spidey golden goose.

TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 9/17/2025, 12:03 AM
I don’t like the idea of Shang Chi being “comic relief” in Doomsday after his rings get presumably taken by Doom just because he may feel out of place which also doesn’t make sense since not only is he still a very capable fighter , he’s also likely on a team with other non powered heroes like Falcon , Captain America & Yelena in which the latter 2 are team leaders…

I will say not to take that too seriously since re-reading his comment , it seems more like speculation then anything else so we’ll see.

In regards to Doom , him being a man scorned by the incursions apparently makes me think him having lost his family because of them might be true and part of his motivation is to somehow get them back which feels very much like the Iron Man:Armored Adventures take…

I can see him being an amalgam of that aswell as certain comic book versions of the character who feels that the world or universe would be much better under his rule which could be interesting imo!!.

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DemonTweeks
DemonTweeks - 9/17/2025, 2:16 AM
starring Shang-Chi as the comic relief.......and the Red Guardian as also the comic relief..... and Ant-Man who also will be the comic relief.... and Spider Man also as the comic relief..... etc etc. we dont need everyone being the comic relief thanks. Thor Love and Thunder levels of "comedy" is not welcome here thanks.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 9/17/2025, 2:38 AM
@DemonTweeks - don't forget angry Guy Gardner with the red power ring.
MadThanos
MadThanos - 9/17/2025, 5:43 AM
@DemonTweeks - don't forget Deadpool.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 9/17/2025, 2:40 AM
"....dooming countless realities, and he wants to bring an end to that by any means necessary."

Dang. Sounds like Doom will be the good guy amongst the thousand big names in this film. Who did RDj have to S-Off to be so important in the world of the mouse?
Android
Android - 9/17/2025, 4:16 AM
Simu being used as comedic relief? Inject it into my VEINS
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 9/17/2025, 5:24 AM
Forget the Master of Kung Fu. Bring back the Master of Quack Fu!
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Humperdoo
Humperdoo - 9/17/2025, 5:33 AM
The more I hear/read about this movie, the less interested I become.
MadThanos
MadThanos - 9/17/2025, 5:40 AM
@Humperdoo - it's all over the place.

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