AVENGERS: DOOMSDAY Rumors May Reveal Doctor Doom's REAL Plan And Some "Unannounced" Characters - SPOILERS

AVENGERS: DOOMSDAY Rumors May Reveal Doctor Doom's REAL Plan And Some "Unannounced" Characters - SPOILERS

Some more Avengers: Doomsday rumors here, this time relating to Doctor Doom's plan to get Earth's Mightiest Heroes on his side. We also have some updates on some of the movie's unannounced characters...

By MarkCassidy - Nov 17, 2025 04:11 PM EST
Filed Under: Avengers: Doomsday

Though several reliable scoopers have shared the same (or very similar) details on Doctor Doom's (Robert Downey Jr.) motivations in Avengers: Doomsday, there have been some conflicting reports relating to how the villain will actually go about enacting his plan.

This week, MTTSH posted the following: "Victor von Doom’s wife and son were killed in an accident, and Victor himself was injured and his body damaged. He traced the cause of the accident to Steve going back in time, and now he’s after him to avenge his family."

This wasn't the first time we had heard about Doom's family or his revenge mission, but there may be a little more to his "tragic" origin than we realized.

Josh from Den of Nerds has since responded by claiming that Doom will be "lying" about his backstory, with MTTSH clarifying that he will indeed be keeping certain things from Earth's Mightiest Heroes in order to gain their trust. It seems the powerful manipulator will attempt to convince the Avengers that he wants to help with the Multiversal incursions, when he is actually seeking vengeance against Rogers.

We also have some updates from the leaker who shared sketches of costume designs (this was not the actual artwork) for Mystique, Magneto and Cyclops, and is now claiming to have seen photos of most of the movie's heroes, including "four unannounced" Doom variants.

This could indicate that some of those surprise characters we've been hearing about will actually be alternate versions of Doom, and might well be played by some bigger names than we anticipated (at least two of the variants are believed to be female).

The first trailer for Avengers: Doomsday will be attached to Avatar: Fire and Ash next month, and could be released online before then, so we should hopefully find out whether at least some of these rumors are on the level fairly soon.

Avengers: Doomsday and Avengers: Secret Wars were recently hit with significant delays, with Doomsday now set to arrive in theaters on December 18, 2026, and Secret Wars positioned for December 17, 2027.

Both movies will be directed by the Russo brothers, who also make their MCU return after helming Captain America: The Winter Soldier, Captain America: Civil War, Avengers: Infinity War and Avengers: Endgame

"Being able to create stories and explore characters within the Marvel Universe fulfilled a life-long dream of ours, and we discovered a powerful connection with audiences in each film that we made. We’re thrilled to collaborate once again with Kevin, Lou and the entire Marvel team to bring this epic adventure in storytelling to new and surprising places for both the fans and ourselves”, said The Russos in a statement after the SDCC panel.

You can check out the full (for now) Doomsday cast list below.

• Paul Rudd as Ant-Man

• Simu Liu as Shang-Chi

• Tom Hiddleston as Loki

• Lewis Pullman as Sentry

• Florence Pugh as Yelena

• Danny Ramirez as Falcon

• Ian McKellen as Magneto

• Sebastian Stan as Bucky

• Winston Duke as M’Baku

• Chris Hemsworth as Thor

• Kelsey Grammer as Beast

• James Marsden as Cyclops

• Channing Tatum as Gambit

• Wyatt Russell as U.S. Agent

• Vanessa Kirby as Sue Storm

• Rebecca Romijn as Mystique

• Patrick Stewart as Professor X

• Alan Cumming as Nightcrawler

• Letitia Wright as Black Panther

• Tenoch Huerta Mejia as Namor

• Pedro Pascal as Reed Richards

• Hannah John-Kamen as Ghost

• Joseph Quinn as Johnny Storm

• David Harbour as Red Guardian

• Robert Downey Jr as Doctor Doom

• Ebon Moss-Bachrach as The Thing

• Anthony Mackie as Captain America

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CreateNowSlpL8r
CreateNowSlpL8r - 11/17/2025, 4:53 PM
Doom Variants are stupid. Lets repeat the same mistake. There being one Doom makes him unique but we can't help ourselves with this variant nonsense.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 11/17/2025, 5:04 PM
I don't get it. Doomsday is Superman's big baddie that killed him. And he was killed. Then came back. Often.

Iron Man was nowhere near that battle. And Steve Lombard never caused anyone's death....as far as we know.

I'm so confused.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 11/17/2025, 6:21 PM
@lazlodaytona - You're not wrong.
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DocSpock
DocSpock - 11/17/2025, 6:32 PM
@lazlodaytona -

Luckily he was only MOSTLY dead every time. If he's completely dead, all you can do is check his pockets for change.
TheFinestSmack
TheFinestSmack - 11/17/2025, 5:05 PM
"This wasn't the first time we had heard about Doom's family or his revenge mission..."

In fact we hear this almost daily round these parts. But Doom lying about his history is interesting to me.
elgaz
elgaz - 11/17/2025, 5:28 PM
I'm no expert on numbers, but by the time this trailer rolls round I'd say we will have had a gazillion rumour mill articles like this
DocSpock
DocSpock - 11/17/2025, 6:27 PM
@elgaz -

Good job. I love applying mathematical certainty to any issue.
TheJester187
TheJester187 - 11/17/2025, 5:33 PM
This movie is not even out. And I’m sick of the clock bait speculation articles. You all don’t know shit. Damn just wait until them cow comes out. Batman 2 gonna wipe this hog shit out the way anyways.
Dotanuki
Dotanuki - 11/17/2025, 5:54 PM
@TheJester187 - yes, continue to convince yourself of that if it helps you sleep. TB2 release in late 2027 assuming there aren’t more delays.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 11/17/2025, 5:59 PM
Another day , Another Doomsday rumor.

If this is true then him possibly hiding his true intentions by pretending to ally with the heroes could be interesting particularly if he has indeed taken on Tony’s face as a means to gain their trust quickly so he could ultimately manipulate some of them such as Namor perhaps to do his bidding….

However , most likely it’s the simplest explanation which is that this Victor just happens to look like Tony akin to Chris Evans as Johnny Storm & Steve Rogers which the former could still use to his advantage.

Anyway , can’t wait to see the first teaser/trailer in a few weeks!!
CrimsonComet40
CrimsonComet40 - 11/17/2025, 6:03 PM
gambgel
gambgel - 11/17/2025, 6:18 PM
is there a new scooper every week or what? Lol
WEAPONXOXOXO
WEAPONXOXOXO - 11/17/2025, 6:20 PM
this looks good


ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 11/17/2025, 6:24 PM
Lying about wanting to save the multiverse but really just wants revenge? Come on fellas, would you just actually read the comics? The twist was that he wanted to save all of reality from destruction, not the other way around.
BlackStar25
BlackStar25 - 11/17/2025, 6:28 PM
"Victor von Doom’s wife and son were killed in an accident, and Victor himself was injured and his body damaged. He traced the cause of the accident to Steve going back in time, and now he’s after him to avenge his family."

If true...just sound like a real work of...

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TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 11/17/2025, 6:31 PM
@BlackStar25 - Zemo is Doom!!.

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BlackStar25
BlackStar25 - 11/17/2025, 6:39 PM
@TheVisionary25 -

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JayLemleAgain3X
JayLemleAgain3X - 11/17/2025, 6:28 PM
Marvel did a good job of shrouding this movie in secrecy. There Endgamne leaks-a-plenty on this site alone. Notable observations from those leaks, like Tony's hairdo after the 5 years had past, were caught on camera. We haven't seen shit outside of concept art and some set pieces. Disney did a good job there.

We're so close to the trailer. Those of you who have been shitting on the movie like you've seen it already, can FINALLY have something to stand on LOL.
hainesy
hainesy - 11/17/2025, 6:29 PM
My hope is that Doom variants in Doomsday as as accurate as Mephisto in Wandavision.
DocSpock
DocSpock - 11/17/2025, 6:29 PM

I can't wait for @SuperCat to have a jillion rumored actors he can blend together for great photo blenders.

And I wanna see Dr Doom jumping out of a jack in the box being played with by Franklin.

MadThanos
MadThanos - 11/17/2025, 6:35 PM
Weak plot.
viciousvday78
viciousvday78 - 11/17/2025, 6:37 PM
Prime Capt America and Loki will form a multi universal avengers team that will lose to Doom at the tree Spiderman Dead Pool Wolverine Thor maybe even Beta Rey Bill Black Panther then on Earth the incursions are happening **just my guess Steve will have known Tony was a variant of Doom and not vice versa ** again my guess all this other stuff is misdirect
Corruptor
Corruptor - 11/17/2025, 7:04 PM
oh no, not more characters

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