AVENGERS: THE KANG DYNASTY Writers Wanted The Young Avengers To Defeat Kang... But There Would've Been A Twist

Avengers: Doomsday writer Michael Waldron has revealed that he and Jeff Loveness pitched what sounds like a fun scenario for the Young Avengers when they were working on The Kang Dynasty...

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By MarkCassidy - Oct 28, 2025 06:10 PM EST

Filed Under: Avengers: Doomsday

Marvel Studios announced Avengers: Doomsday at San Diego Comic-Con last year, with Robert Downey Jr. set to make his MCU return as the villainous Doctor Doom. As we know, this next Avengers movie was previously titled "The Kang Dynasty," and was shaping up to be a very different film prior to Kang actor Jonathan Majors' firing

Now, co-writer Michael Waldron - who also worked on the Doomsday script - has shared details on an intriguing scenario he pitched to Marvel along with co-writer Jeff Loveness.

Waldron and Loveness wanted The Young Avengers to defeat Kang.... kind of! After the team took the villain down, they were going to discover that he was actually an inexperienced variant of the all-powerful Conqueror.

"Jeff Loveness and I spent an afternoon pitching on the Young Avengers defeating a version of Kang and being so stoked about it...only to discover that that particular Kang carried a little card that said to Be Patient with him, it was his first day as a Kang. And then they were so bummed," Waldron said during a Reddit Q&A. "I think he was gonna be the lizard Kang from the end of Kang Dynasty? I don't know. Anyway we had fun."

We assume he means the Lizard Kang from Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania's post-credits scene.

This sounds like it could have been a fun scene, and Waldron's idea would obviously seem to confirm that the Young Avengers were going to feature in The Kang Dynasty. The team will likely appear in either Doomsday or Avengers: Secret Wars (or both), and are expected to be the focus of a Disney+ series titled The Champions.

Avengers: Doomsday and Avengers: Secret Wars were recently hit with significant delays, with Doomsday now set to arrive in theaters on December 18, 2026, and Secret Wars positioned for December 17, 2027.

Both movies will be directed by the Russo brothers, who also make their MCU return after helming Captain America: The Winter Soldier, Captain America: Civil War, Avengers: Infinity War and Avengers: Endgame.

"Being able to create stories and explore characters within the Marvel Universe fulfilled a life-long dream of ours, and we discovered a powerful connection with audiences in each film that we made. We’re thrilled to collaborate once again with Kevin, Lou and the entire Marvel team to bring this epic adventure in storytelling to new and surprising places for both the fans and ourselves”, said The Russos in a statement after the SDCC panel.

You can check out the full (for now) Doomsday cast list below.

#AvengersDoomsday. Now in production. pic.twitter.com/G84UVU8HOc
— Marvel Studios (@MarvelStudios) March 26, 2025

• Paul Rudd as Ant-Man

• Simu Liu as Shang-Chi

• Tom Hiddleston as Loki

• Lewis Pullman as Sentry

• Florence Pugh as Yelena

• Danny Ramirez as Falcon

• Ian McKellen as Magneto

• Sebastian Stan as Bucky

• Winston Duke as M’Baku

• Chris Hemsworth as Thor

• Kelsey Grammer as Beast

• James Marsden as Cyclops

• Channing Tatum as Gambit

• Wyatt Russell as U.S. Agent

• Vanessa Kirby as Sue Storm

• Rebecca Romijn as Mystique

• Patrick Stewart as Professor X

• Alan Cumming as Nightcrawler

• Letitia Wright as Black Panther

• Tenoch Huerta Mejia as Namor

• Pedro Pascal as Reed Richards

• Hannah John-Kamen as Ghost

• Joseph Quinn as Johnny Storm

• David Harbour as Red Guardian

• Robert Downey Jr as Doctor Doom

• Ebon Moss-Bachrach as The Thing

• Anthony Mackie as Captain America

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23 Comments

harryba11zack - 10/28/2025, 6:07 PM

THE KANG DYNASTY Writers may have Wanted that but the audience didn't and don't for doom

dragon316 - 10/28/2025, 7:28 PM

@harryba11zack - but audiance was excited for kang before making appearance in Loki episode with race swap of kang

Dotanuki - 10/28/2025, 6:08 PM

Horrible. Glibness that was a hallmark of MCU movies. Understandably, he has been demoted. Right?!!

Malatrova15 - 10/28/2025, 6:09 PM

Oh my god is fapening!

Feralwookiee - 10/28/2025, 7:26 PM

@Malatrova15 - HE'S BACK!!!

HashTagSwagg - 10/28/2025, 6:24 PM

Was losing to ants not humiliating enough?

Malatrova15 - 10/28/2025, 8:02 PM

@HashTagSwagg - i mean.. Gene Hackman and his wife lost against common house rats

Pathogen - 10/28/2025, 6:30 PM

So dumb.

VicSage - 10/28/2025, 6:38 PM

In another world, I imagine it would have been pretty cool seeing a Kang Dynasty movie that focused on Sam’s Avengers and the Young Avengers/Champions facing off with him as its own standalone thing to lead into Doomsday and Secret Wars.

TheVisionary25 - 10/28/2025, 6:43 PM

Ngl , that does sound funny if not a bit too cheeky perhaps (feels very Rick & Morty aswell).

I wouldn’t be surprised if this was part of a scenario where the Young Avengers went on their mission to defeat one of the Kang variants with this being how it turned out as other heroes/teams took on the other ones.

Anyway , i’m ok with that not happening though I still wish the original plan for Kang to be the Multiverse Saga Big Bad was followed through but oh well , it wasn’t meant to be which is disappointing as someone who enjoyed Majors performances and his take on the variants!!.

JFerguson - 10/28/2025, 6:59 PM

"that particular Kang carried a little card that said to Be Patient with him, it was his first day as a Kang"

This guy's sense of humor is so juvenile yet self-congratulatory. That may have worked for something like Rick and Morty but has no place in an Avengers movie.

bkmeijer1 - 10/28/2025, 7:17 PM

Kang Dynasty (including this) could've worked in Phase 4 or 5, but not as Saga finale imo. I'm glad they're going with Doom, since he was always needed for Secret Wars anyway.

TheVisionary25 - 10/28/2025, 7:58 PM

@bkmeijer1 - I mean , we will never know but I feel Kang had the capability to be the Big Bad of the Saga

Also wasn’t Doomsday supposed to be Kang Dynasty while Secret Wars was always going to be that so the former was never the finale.

Matchesz - 10/28/2025, 8:02 PM

@bkmeijer1 - Latveria should have been the country the US was going to war with over the adamantium not Japan

soberchimera - 10/28/2025, 7:28 PM

Sigh, we’ll never get to see Kang in his iconic Cosby sweater now.

MyCoolYoung - 10/28/2025, 7:50 PM

Context matters with anything, but it sounds a tad out of place for the magnitude of what avengers movies usually are.

RolandD - 10/28/2025, 9:46 PM

@MyCoolYoung - Exactly.

Vigor - 10/28/2025, 8:38 PM

Many months ago I predicted young avengers were to be the main team against Kang. It was pretty obvious. This would have been cool to see

Maybe Kang is still in the next two avengers movies as a side villain for one of the teams to contend with

TheLobster - 10/28/2025, 9:01 PM

Maybe it’s a good thing Kang Dynasty never happened. Between hearing pitches like this as well as that laughable after credits scene of Quantumania - the whole thing sounds like it would have been corny as hell lol

RolandD - 10/28/2025, 9:09 PM

I’d say we dodged a bullet here. If they had a scene early in the movie where this happens and then the heroes, likely some combination of actual Avengers and Young Avengers/ Champions are battling a much more powerful Kang, I could live with that. However, if this was the climax of the movie I would’ve felt cheated.

TheVisionary25 - 10/28/2025, 9:53 PM

@RolandD - doesn’t seem like the climax but maybe various teams were taking on different Kang’s and this was just one instance

RolandD - 10/28/2025, 10:15 PM

@TheVisionary25 - Well then as I suggested, I wouldn’t mind that. I don’t think I’d ask for it either but there you have it.

Waifuslayer2 - 10/28/2025, 9:13 PM

I just want the MCU to end

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AVENGERS: THE KANG DYNASTY Writers Wanted The Young Avengers To Defeat Kang... But There Would've Been A Twist

Avengers: Doomsday writer Michael Waldron has revealed that he and Jeff Loveness pitched what sounds like a fun scenario for the Young Avengers when they were working on The Kang Dynasty...

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Jeremy Renner Reveals Whether He Will Return As Hawkeye In AVENGERS: DOOMSDAY And AVENGERS: SECRET WARS

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