What Man of Steel Needs To Do, To Be the Best CBM in 2012!

What Man of Steel Needs To Do, To Be the Best CBM in 2012!

What the general audience and Superman fans would love to see from Big Blue.

Editorial Opinion
By TheGODDAMNSUPERGUY - Mar 09, 2011 08:03 PM EST
Filed Under: Superman

We all know the geniuses behind Man of Steel will make an epic movie. Zack Snyder has yet to make a movie that didn't make me say wow and Nolan's stories always catch my interest. With an actor of Henry Cavill's caliber on board and Zack Snyder continuously making great casting decision, I doubt that this movie will be a bad one, but just in case they need a little push I'll offer them some input.




1.) DON'T [frick] WITH THE SUIT!!!

Taking away Supes' briefs is like taking away Batman's cowl. It's as much a part of the character as the character himself. The only people who want it gone are people who think it's not 'cool' or 'realistic'. That's apposed to what? Spiderman tight one piece or any other superheroes corny outfit? For those who say it's not realistic, even Nolan had to change up Batman's get up because there's no way in hell that a man can fight crime without some kind of armor to protect him. He'd be dead in a day. Superman's briefs don't bother anyone, leave them be. You can turn the briefs in to boxer-shorts, but he still needs his undies on the outside.

(If someone can give me a valid reason to loose the briefs, I'll change my stance on it, but as of now. Shut up...)

2.) Give us an origin story

This movie is for a younger audience. It's there time to get acquainted with the big guy. It's not for people who were around when Superman: The movie came out. For the Donner-era people, you have five, I'm counting Superman Returns because it wasn't made for a modern audience, movies to enjoy. Without an origin story, you're asking people to go back and watch those dated Reeve and Cain movies/TV shows or Smallville which doesn't follow the continuity AT ALL. I know a lot of you just want to see Superman punch Doomsday and be happy, but that's a bad idea. There's no character development, no emotion, it's just a punch flick and you'd miss out on Superman's humanity if you did that. Give us a Superman: Birthright with Brainiac instead of holograms and street thugs.

3.) Give us Sexy Lexy!!!

Not Hackman/Spacey's campfest, give us Clancy Brown/Rosenbaum Luthor. I want Lex to be a multi-billion dollar business man who has a secret hate for Superman and think he's hindering progress and human evolution. He doesn't have to be the main villain, he shouldn't be the main villain, but he should be involved. The way Nolan used the mob in both Batman Begins and TDK is how Lex should be used.

4.) Give Superman a challenge

I've said no to Doomsday and yes to Luthor, but I don't want Luthor as the main villain. Superman needs someone he can mess up. I, for one, would love to see Brainiac finally make an appearance on the big screen. If they use him the way the animated series used Brainiac it would make for great cinema. Superman, after growing up on Earth by himself, meets a stranger from another world who offers to tell him about Krypton only for Superman to find out that Brainiac destroyed Krypton and he wants to do the same to Earth. Superman and Brainiac fight it out and cause a boat load of collateral damage and light up the screen like never before.

5.) Give Clark Kent a challenge

Too many times in movies and TV shows Clark Kent has always been portrayed as merely a weak facade for Superman to hide behind. He's a pulitzer award winning investigative journalist. It's time to make Clark Kent as interesting as Superman. If you limit him to nothing, he'll be a nothing. Keep in mind that the best Clark Kents have been Cain and Welling who portray Clark as a shy, yet normal man. None of that gee-wilikers crap. Just make Clark Kent interesting and relatable and give him a job to do.


I'm sure Nolan and Snyder will wow us with their masterpiece. In fact, I'd bet my freedom on it.

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DCwanabe
DCwanabe - 3/9/2011, 9:14 PM
This is great hit the nail on the head.

I must disagree with one thing though, my apologies. I don't believe we need a superman origins story again unless they are willing to give us something radically new. I think that superman's true purpose and ultimate fate are more interesting topics. That's why I believe the all-star superman stuff went over so well, it was a more conclusive story.

I personally still believe that superman needs a destiny above, saving the earth again and again from the weekly mayhem. So I wrote a story. It involves darkseid and a single destiny where the Man of Steel actually saves humanity, not just til next time.

Here is the story I would love to see told in a cartoon or movie.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/manofsteelstuff/news/?a=31259
marvelguy
marvelguy - 3/9/2011, 9:37 PM
I mostly agree.

I am on the side of seeing no need for the origin. If it's covered, it could be done in ten or fifteen minutes. Yes, it may be aimed at a younger audience, but "Smallville" has been on for ten years. People know the origin. If you're aware of Superman, you know he's an alien from another planet, he's found by the Kents, raised to be a human, and pieces of his home planet kill him. That's plenty. We need to see his struggle to make Lois love Clark instead of Superman, and as Kevin Smith said: he needs to hit something big.
TorturedXGenius
TorturedXGenius - 3/9/2011, 9:45 PM
one the suit..IMO..the Returns suit was great except: bigger/wider S, richer colors why dull them? and open neck line, and the get rid of the 'speedo' underwear, not the underwear just the 'speedo' ones in Returns, try the 'boxer' type like in Gary Frank, or Frank Quietly draws them kinda


if you want an 'attractive' Lex..i say go for Ryan Goslin, inspired choice and it's somthing different and left field

if you need an origins just do a live action version of these panels..simple and to the point.

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LP4
LP4 - 3/10/2011, 12:36 AM
@Superguy- I agree with you %100 on all your points buddy! In fact i was originally against bringing back the origin. We had it played out in all forms of media for Supes. But you definitely changed my mind because you brought up a very valid point- moviegoers shouldn't have to refer back to the dated Reeve-films, the Cain-series or Smallville to see his origin. But the origin in this film MUST be updated. Certainly not changed but the origin in this film must be set apart from the Reeve-films and Cain-series (LOVED the Cain series) and of course from Smallville (bless their hearts they worked harder than Bryan Singer did with such a small budget I must admit) and you are certainly right about Cain and Welling being the best Clark Kents- I would actually rank Cain over Welling as the best Clark Kent- his Clark was great, very confident and skilled journalist, NOT bumbling and strongly influenced the STAS Clark Kent. Welling was a great Clark but at times way too angsty and seemed a bit druggie when on Red or Black kryptonite- (in an early season i remember he was addicted to red-kryptonite and used it to escape his worries and would even put it back on at times when he was depressed and black kryptonite made him all weird and drooled a bit i seem to remember) At least Dean Cain's Clark Kent I don't remember ever being like THAT ;D

You "Superguy" my friend have nailed every point on cue. ;D Can't figure out a time I ever disagreed with you! GREAT editorial and had I not needed to take my girlfriend home an HOUR away, I would have been FIRST to comment on this editorial!
manymade1
manymade1 - 3/10/2011, 4:12 AM
I agree, with everything, you said. Nice job @ GodDanmSuperGuy.

We really, need an origin story. I would really like to see elements of Man of Steel. I was wondering which Luthor, they'd use, earth 1 scientist, earth 2 Billionaire, or both. We need a challenge, which leaves me to Braniac and Bizarro as the villians.
marvel72
marvel72 - 3/10/2011, 4:39 AM
@ thegoddamnsuperguy

cool,article.

what man of steel needs to do to be the best cbm in 2012 ? have a cameo from the avengers because that gonna be the best film of 2012.

only having a laugh.

1.don't f*ck with costume its iconic.

2.the origin can be told in the opening credits,so we get straight to seeing superman in action.

3.keep well away from "smallville" for inspiration.

4.lex luthor not as the main villain have him in a slightly lesser role maybe team up with the main villain.

5.top notch villain we haven't seen before,someone he can actually punch i.e brainiac,mongul,doomsday or darkseid.
Twenty23Three
Twenty23Three - 3/10/2011, 5:14 AM
I feel the best way too deal with the origins would be with the kents driving along and the ship crashing, then straight into the opening credits which would kinda be like the start of the incredible hulk, a montage of him growing up and learning his powers. Then boom straight into the film.
NotThatGuy
NotThatGuy - 3/10/2011, 6:31 AM
#6 A complete & total recast with someone that actually looks like Superman!!!
Caedus137
Caedus137 - 3/10/2011, 6:59 AM
I think that if this movie is going to do for Superman what Batman Begins and TDK did for Batman (be the new, definitive version) then we kind of HAVE to have an origin story. To truly work as a new beginning for the next generation of geeks like us, they have to approach it as if the public had little or no knowledge of the character. Those old Christopher Reeve films are remembered fondly by all including me, but if we're honest with ourselves they are actually pretty bad, and need to be respectfully laid to rest by this new take on the character.
LordHuck
LordHuck - 3/10/2011, 7:13 AM
Superman losing his briefs is NOT like batman losing his Cowl. Its like Batman Losing his briefs. Batman lost his briefs in every movie and in the comics.

And as far as a Valid reason to lose the Briefs. How about they look like hell and every other DC and marvel Hero who ever wore them is Not wearing them now.

Briefs over the pants is a tired look.
bubba27
bubba27 - 3/10/2011, 7:22 AM
@TheGODDAMNSUPERGUY

I absolutely agree with everything you said.
mbomb22
mbomb22 - 3/10/2011, 7:43 AM
@lordhuck - the briefs are more iconic to supermans costume than batmans. they gotta stay.

i think they need to have a trilogy, like Batman. Start with Darkseid wanting to take over planet Earth, but when he finds out about Superman, he releases Zod from the phantom zone. theres part one.

In part 2, Brainiac, whos already tried to destroy apokalypse, comes to earth to steal all of its data, and Superman steps in to stop him. With Superman outsmarted and down for the count, darkseid comes to Earth and destroys Brainiac so he can now take over Earth.

In part 3, superman and darkseid have an all out slugfest for the fate of the earth.

with this senario, we have superman fighting increasingly tougher villians, all of them iconic to superman lore, and all of them worthy of a huge challenge. wouldnt you all want to see these movies?
LordHuck
LordHuck - 3/10/2011, 8:00 AM
@ Mbomb22

It's the Shield that's the Iconic Costume element not the stupid Trunks

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mbomb22
mbomb22 - 3/10/2011, 8:07 AM
@Lordhuck- im not stupid, i know that the shield is the iconic element. im saying that with out the briefs, it looks incomplete. thats just my opinion, and i think a lot of people here agree
LordHuck
LordHuck - 3/10/2011, 8:20 AM
Yeah,and if we had listend to those same people years ago batman would look like this

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RyKnow
RyKnow - 3/10/2011, 8:23 AM
@ theGODDAMNSUPERGUY - Well written bud. I agree with some of your points, and disagree with others (but this is what makes the world interesting) so here goes;

1. Yep, the suit is fine. Are you going to watch the film, or just what Superman is wearing. The Superman Returns suit was perfectly fine, just reuse that.

2. There won't be an origin story due to copyright stuff (can't be arsed with the legal lingo). For character development and emotion to be present, drop Snyder.

3. Agreed, we do need Lex in a Superman film, it wouldn't be Superman otherwise. But as you say, not the main villain. Maybe just a supporting role.

4. Superman does need a challenge yes. As much as I liked Superman Returns, I'll agree it needed a full on superfight in it. I think it was about a year ago that David Goyer said he'd be including Brainiac and Lex Luthor in the script, so we know Superman will have his hands full in the reboot/stand alone film (can't see it getting a sequel if WB reaquire ALL the rights, including Krypton etc.).

5. I think Clark's always had a challenge; trying to get Lois' attentions when she's in love with his alter ego. That in itself is a challenge, and I think it worked well in Superman Returns.

I have low expectations of this film due to the choice of director, but as a fan of Superman, I will pay my money to see it on the big screen. I just reckon I'm gonna have that empty, ripped off feeling I had when I saw Spider-Man 3.

Like I say, good write up mate, just sorry I couldn't agree with everything :)
TheLight
TheLight - 3/10/2011, 9:16 AM
Superman was and still is the first comic superhero! He must be remembered in his iconic suit. Everyone in the world knows how he looks and that's how it needs to remain. I have no doubt that the Superman we will see in 2012, will remind people why he's still one of the greatest heroes of all time.
Fortress
Fortress - 3/10/2011, 10:45 AM
TheGODDAMNSUPERGUY: very nice!

I WOULD ADD TO THE SUIT, THEY MUST PUT THE YELLOW YES BACK ON THE CAPE!!! MAKE THE SUIT LOOK JUST LIKE JIM LEE DRAWS SUPES! ;)

I WOULD LIKE ZOD AS MAIN VILLAN! KNEEL BEFORE ZOD! :-)
YourMomNaked
YourMomNaked - 3/10/2011, 11:15 AM
@LordHuck...I prefer the tights to the armor with or without undies. I also prefer the cowl to a helmet, especially if it's a retro style detective story.

If they change just for the sake of change, it better be subtle or it'll fail. People flipped over the SR costume. I had no issues with the shield, colors or cape of the SR suit; I thought it looked fine.

I'm opposed to another origins movie because it's redundant. People are familiar with where he's from and how he got to Earth. Unless in the movie's universe they have him raised in USSR or by the Luthor's, people know from either the comics, the cartoons, the previous movies or from Smallville...we know enough to move past it already. My 8 year old has been watching the Smallville and Superman: the animated series/Justice League (etc.) for the past 2 years. Either he is the target audience and adults will be disappointed (much like Star Wars: Phantom Menace) or WE are the target audience and WE know the [frick]ing origins!

I agree with the remaining points (except the faith so many have placed in Synder/Cavill in delivering on this reboot). Bale was good as Wayne but not so much as The Batman. TDK is most everyones favorite CBM not because of Bale's Batman so much as it's for Ledger's Joker. We'll see ;)
drellik
drellik - 3/10/2011, 11:44 AM
your points are all good. my only concern is the entire origin argument. @RyKnow, i agree, legal issues will keep them from an origin. but can't we all get passed the hurdle of his origin? everyone knows it already. we've seen it EVERYWHERE. and i agree with Marvelguy...Smallville has been on for 10 years! if you don't get the origin by now, then by God go back into your cave. people say they need to retell the origin for a younger, more modern audience...that's what they did with Smallville. and since when in comic book history has an exact continuity always been followed? story arcs keep us interested. i applaud Smallville for showing a Clark Kent that suffered in his teens, even with a red Kryptonite addiction.

also, if they're gearing this movie towards 10 year olds as one had mentioned, we're totally screwed. we need a borderline R-rated Superman movie for once. not for foul language, but for violence and visuals. dammit, give us a Superman we can all relate to in the 21st CENTURY!
a money hungry Luthor with hot chicks and badass deceit.
a savvy and hot Lois Lane that can take down her own mugger.
a Jimmy Olsen that struggles with bad decisions to be successful in his career.
a Bibbo Bibowski throwing scum out of nasty pub.
a Clark Kent with a backbone that knows how to stand up for himself.
and a Superman that gets pissed and unleashes hell when an alien rival gets the best of him and threatens humanity.

yeah, i say keep the underwear...but undies or not, it really doesn't matter. just give me this guy:
drellik
drellik - 3/10/2011, 12:59 PM
@Gaston - good point. but they were able to do it with Dean Cain. the guy was quiet, but he wasn't a pushover. neither is Welling. i know the big screen is different than a tv show, but a strong farm boy shouldn't be such a geeky wuss. besides, i don't see how a geeky wuss could be such a successful reporter...you have to have some balls in there.

inconspicuous, but still a man.
golden123
golden123 - 3/10/2011, 2:23 PM
I agree with everything in this article. Nice Editorial! In addition to that, we should see Superman's enomrous amount of supporting characters. The ensemble cast that was featured in the '90s would be awesome to see on screen. It's one of the most attractive things about the Man of Steel, in my opinion, but has yet to be showcased in a feature length film. Too bad we don't see that in the comics anymore.
Amazo
Amazo - 3/10/2011, 2:31 PM
Well done GDSG!
Concur on all points! :)
Knightstalker
Knightstalker - 3/10/2011, 2:32 PM
Outstanding article GDSuperguy. You've hit every single point that most of us would like to see in the Superman reboot. It's just too bad that there are people out there and on this site that don't get who Clark Kent/Superman is and want to frick up the movie so they can whine about how bad it was.

@drellik...Excellent point about Clark Kent! Dean Cain was the most believable and relatable CK, and he had the best looking Superman Suit as well.
naterator
naterator - 3/10/2011, 2:35 PM
great article..... shorts must stay and i agreed with everything that you threw out there....finally LP4 was able to understand that the an origin story is needed if they are rebooting completely. welcome to the club buddy. The only suggestion i have to add is that if a trilogy is in mind (which I hope is the case) then i hope to God that it is presented with the same kinda magic that the LOTR trilogy was presented. i gotta tell ya...if nolan werent helming this i would have preferred a visionary like Peter Jackson.
One2three
One2three - 3/10/2011, 4:10 PM
I'm starting to wonder, is this really wrong?
As long as the trademark shield is there, and cape
builds around his neck. Looks fine by me.

Superman appears to be wondering the same.
LordHuck
LordHuck - 3/10/2011, 6:22 PM
You're right One2ephu. That looks much better.

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Change is good, or we would still have this.

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drellik
drellik - 3/10/2011, 7:19 PM
@Huck, I said it once before, that 4th image is sweet (the one of the statue). I think the design is very fitting for the big screen and I particularly like that they kept the original logo, still bringing something we all know and love (original for the last few decades). I think it would immediately draw Superman to the 21st century.
LordHuck
LordHuck - 3/10/2011, 7:45 PM
Found another on Superherohype

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TDK08
TDK08 - 3/10/2011, 7:46 PM
@LordHuck your first, fifth and sixth picture combined would make an amazing revamp of the superman costume. Mix that with a lil cgi technology the way they made the green lantern costume to look a little more alien; and we way have the best superman suit of our generation onscreen. (This is my first post by the way, just got an account 2min ago :) )
luckylu
luckylu - 3/10/2011, 7:47 PM
@lordhuck- for being a low budget fan made short film. that batman looks bada$$ and the film is pretty good too. for superman his costume is to iconic to change. and just out of curiosity, why do you like suoerheroes if your so embarrassed by their costumes?
Flop123
Flop123 - 3/10/2011, 9:06 PM
Great article @superguy agree with just about everything!
@huck - the statue photo actually looks pretty good. I could definately see that on the big screen. Maybe just add a yellow outline around the red belt area.
LordHuck
LordHuck - 3/10/2011, 9:08 PM
@ Luckylu

I am only embarrassed by the incredibly garish and shitty ones like 616 Hawkeye. Everyone likes Purple leather pirate cuff boots right? His headdress is a disaster.

Current 616 Cyclops looks great
Modern 616 Thor looks great
Ultimate Thor looks great
Current Batman looks good
Current 616 Beast looks good
Ultimate Hawkeye always looks better than his 616 counterpart
Most Green Lanterns look great
Hawkman looks good now.
Colossus looks good currently
Ultimate and 616 Namor are looking good
X-Force Warpath looks great
Wolverine is looking good in the Heroic age.
Ultimate Captain America, Bucky Captain America, and Steve Rogers Super Soldier all look better than Caps old 616 costume.

I like how lots of Superheroes/villains are currently being drawn. Only a few things really get under my skin, such as: Purple Pirate Boots, Green Bowler Hats and Briefs worn over the pants.
LP4
LP4 - 3/10/2011, 9:24 PM
@drellik and Knightstalker- Thank you both- Dean Cain was fu*king AWESOME. His Superman talked to children so personally and taught kids to recycle. Maybe that is "corny" to some kids but to me...he was a REAL Superman.

His Clark Kent was so smart, so suave and so relatable. I know Cain always gets so much crap thrown on him for not being the "best" of portrayals (which i completely disagree with) I actually think Welling and Routh could both learn a thing or two from good O'l Mister Dean Cain ;D
Havok89
Havok89 - 3/11/2011, 12:20 AM
UNDIES MUST GO!
Knightstalker
Knightstalker - 3/11/2011, 12:45 AM
@LP4-Cain had to follow the script and the vision of the director(s). I'd bet that if L&C had better writing, Cain would have been revered as an outstanding Superman. What people don't realize is that he did an incredible amount of research after he got cast as CK/Superman.

As for all of you trolls that are hating on the iconic suit, I'll see you at the theater and laugh at you while I'm enjoying the movie and you are all whining in the lobby about "undies". Seriously, it seems that you don't want Superman at all. You want some made up bastardized rip-off version like the Smallville show.
RyKnow
RyKnow - 3/11/2011, 1:56 AM
@ naterator - Not necassarily. The Incredible Hulk was a reboot and they just put the origin in 2/3 mins of footage during the opening credits.
But in the Superman reboot, there will be no origin story because of the legalities/rights etc. - Another reason for it to suck :(
LordHuck
LordHuck - 3/11/2011, 2:36 AM
If they can't shoot an Origin due to legalities it does free up $$ and running time for other sequences. Thats the bright side.
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