RUMOR: We May Know What That Asterisk In THUNDERBOLTS* Signifies - Possible SPOILERS

RUMOR: We May Know What That Asterisk In THUNDERBOLTS* Signifies - Possible SPOILERS

There's been a lot of speculation about that mysterious asterisk that was added to the title of Marvel Studios' Thunderbolts, and we may finally know what it means...

By MarkCassidy - Sep 18, 2024 06:09 PM EST
Filed Under: Thunderbolts

Back in March, after star Florence Pugh shared our first behind-the-scenes look at the movie, Marvel Studios announced a minor but significant change to the title of Thunderbolts* with the addition of a mysterious asterisk.

Fans have been speculating ever since, and the most popular theory seems to be that the characters will ultimately form a completely different team.

Several cast members have been asked about the asterisk, and David Harbour came closest to at least hinting at its significance during a recent interview.

“Yes, they retroactively put the asterisk (in). The asterisk was an idea that that someone had. What can I say that's not going to get me in trouble? The asterisk is very cool. I understand why people might put an asterisk there (laughs) I'm excited for the viewers to see that as well. But I, again, I just can't say anymore.”

Possible spoilers from this point on.

So, will the Thunderbolts actually be revealed to be the Dark Avengers? According to MTTSH, they're actually going to be the New Avengers.

This doesn't necessarily mean that these characters alone will make up the next incarnation of Earth's Mightiest Heroes, but it seems the plan is for them to form the basis for a new, most likely government-sponsored (we'll see how long that lasts) team that would officially activate after (or maybe during) the events of Avengers: Secret Wars.

What do you make of this rumor? Be sure to let us know in the comments section down below.

Though other characters might well join up during the movie, the Thunderbolts roster currently consists of Red Guardian (Harbour), Ghost (Hannah John-Kamen), Yelena Belova (Florence Pugh), Bucky Barnes/The Winter Soldier (Sebastian Stan), John Walker/U.S. Agent (Wyatt Russell), and Taskmaster (Kurylenko).

Contessa Valentina Allegra de Fontaine (Julie Louis Dreyfus) will put the team together, and rumor has it that she may also be partially responsible for Sentry's creation.

As for Sentry, Lewis Pullman (Salem's Lot, Top Gun Maverick) joined the cast as the powerful, unstable character after The Walking Dead alum Steven Yeun was forced to step away due to a scheduling conflict.

There were rumors that Harrison Ford's Thaddeus "Thunderbolt" Ross would be involved, but that seems to have been debunked. Black Widow's Melina Vostokoff (Rachel Weisz) and Bill Foster (Laurence Fishburne) from Ant-Man and the Wasp are also rumored to appear.

Thunderbolts* is currently set to be released in theaters on May 2, 2025.

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IAmAHoot
IAmAHoot - 9/18/2024, 6:27 PM
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CaptainFlapjaks
CaptainFlapjaks - 9/18/2024, 7:14 PM
@IAmAHoot - i could see the thunderbolts being playfully called the new avengers in a quick little bit. Because this team definitely seems like ross trying to replace the avengers after endgame. Knowing they will need a team the fight for the world but one that is run by the government and used on government operations.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 9/18/2024, 8:16 PM
@CaptainFlapjaks - I would rather they just be this universe’s Thunderbolts but I do like your idea.
CaptainFlapjaks
CaptainFlapjaks - 9/19/2024, 12:29 PM
@TheVisionary25 - yea the team name is still the thunderbolts, but ross and val playfully refer to them as "the new avengers"
TheFinestSmack
TheFinestSmack - 9/18/2024, 6:37 PM
Oh. We're still committed to MTTSH, I see...
CreateNowSlpL8r
CreateNowSlpL8r - 9/18/2024, 6:56 PM
Even reading the rumor is silly. Why would they form an Avengers group after Secret Wars. My guess is they are resting the Avengers brand for awhile to concentrate on the X-men.

Also, there isn't a normie on earth who gives a shit about this movie. It has bomb written all over it. Its mostly a BW sequel centered around Florence Pugh. They don't have a single character to draw people in.
GameOn
GameOn - 9/18/2024, 6:58 PM
@CreateNowSlpL8r - If it’s good, people will see it. Just like Guardians or Ant-Man.
MuadDib
MuadDib - 9/18/2024, 7:09 PM
@CreateNowSlpL8r - I gotta agree that Pugh is overhyped and though not terrible, not amazing either. The team dynamic could be enough to draw in some of a crowd especially fanboys, so I wouldn’t be surprised to see it do relatively well at the BO. But I wouldn’t be holding my breath for a billion dollar blowout without some very big surprise cameos or leaks to really draw audiences in
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 9/18/2024, 7:02 PM
If true then that makes more sense then Dark Avengers to me (which I think would be corny if said out loud lol)…

Yes , the team is made up of former villains or anti-heroes but I think the government or Val would try to assemble their/her own team of Avengers I feel .

Plus , we don’t know what the makeup of this team may be by the end with some perhaps not being in it or the likes of Sentry or Geraldine Vishwanathan’s character (who is rumored to be Songbird) joining.

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hainesy
hainesy - 9/18/2024, 7:05 PM
I doubt they use Dark Avengers, but could see Ross wanting to create a "new" Avengers group in Cap 4, but then after the Red Hulk debacle, he is either dead or discredited. But they codename the "New Avengers" as the Thunderbolts in his honour. OR the title is indeed a placeholder to avoid Cap spoilers and they then call it New Avengers.

Either way, I just want a good movie
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 9/19/2024, 4:38 AM
@hainesy - that's exactly what I think as well. The asterisk probably mean it's Thunderbolt's recruits for his new Avengers, but they won't called the Avengers
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 9/19/2024, 5:42 AM
@bkmeijer1 - The way I could see it go down is Sam refuses to create a POTUS controlled Avengers team so this is what is created instead under Government control but by the end the remaining who are on a hero path (as in some may defect to Zemo's side if he turns up) form part of Sam's New Avengers (independent from US control) along with some he brings to his side in Brave New World and remaining prior ones like Hulk, Thor, Spider-Man and Hawkeye (may not ALL be there all the time in a story just like how Falcon only turned up at the end of AoU).

MAYBE the official name for the team Ross has made is Avengers but the members create their own name for it as not sold on the propaganda of being the new Avengers and uncomfortable taking on that mantle.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 9/19/2024, 7:17 AM
@Apophis71 - that's a good one too. The intent is probably for them to be the new Avengers, but everybody in-universe just refuses to go with that name
Vigor
Vigor - 9/18/2024, 7:12 PM
This makes no sense when we have the likes of she hulk, Shang chi, capt marvel, ms marvel, and falcon-america out there

If anything dark avengers makes more sense
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 9/18/2024, 7:24 PM
@Vigor - true but I don’t see any if not most of them joining a possibly government sponsored team.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 9/19/2024, 6:45 AM
@Vigor - Even something like dark avengers would initialy just be called avengers and once outed as of villanous intent revert to a villain name like the original Thunderbolts revealed to be Zemo's Masters of Evil but some members going on to revert to being a heroic team...

...actualy being dark avengers without Osborn would in many ways be worse than being Thunderbolts sans Zemo as at least there has been a dozen versions of the latter that didn't have Zemo in it and at times fully a hero team, others villains in disguise and everything inbetween.

The likely case is that Ross we know wants to create an Avengers team but Sam refuses to do so under government control thus this team created instead but official name IS Avengers with members not buying into that and coming up with their own nickname for it. Then after this and going against Val Cap steps in with others to from the true non-government controlled Avengers team.
Vigor
Vigor - 9/18/2024, 7:14 PM
I'm watching rings of power season 2. This show is um, excellent????
Granted I haven't read the book it's based on

I feel so confused that the internet hates it
BraxtonHicks
BraxtonHicks - 9/18/2024, 7:28 PM
Soooooooo like how Falcon/ Winter Soldier turned into Captain America and Winter Soldier in the end....?
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