James Gunn Explains How PEACEMAKER Finale Lays The Groundwork For MAN OF TOMORROW - SPOILERS

James Gunn Explains How PEACEMAKER Finale Lays The Groundwork For MAN OF TOMORROW - SPOILERS

The season 2 finale of Peacemaker is now streaming on HBO Max, and James Gunn has taken to social media to explain how the episode ties into his plans for Man of Tomorrow...

By MarkCassidy - Oct 10, 2025 12:10 PM EST
Filed Under: Peacemaker

The season 2 finale of Peacemaker is now streaming on HBO Max, and even though it was far from the cameo-fest some were expecting, the mostly character-focused episode did leave us with quite a bit to discuss.

James Gunn has previously revealed that the events of the finale will directly tie-in to Man of Tomorrow, and while "Full Nelson" didn't feature any overt connections to the upcoming Superman follow-up, it did give us some idea of where things might be heading in the DCU.

Major spoilers follow.

Peacemaker season 2 concludes with Chris Smith and the rest of the 11th Street Kids, along with Judomaster and A.R.G.U.S. Agents Sasha Bordeaux and Langston Fleury, founding Checkmate, and a pretty definitive "heel turn" from Rick Flag Sr. Still fuelled by rage and vengeance after the death of his son, Flag kidnaps Chris and strands his in Salvation, the Earth-like dimension he intends to use as a prison for the planet's Metahumans.

Gunn was asked how these events will ultimately connect to Man of Tomorrow on Threads.

“Where Chris is at the end, what’s happening between the government and the metahumans, Rick and Lex’s new partnership, and all their decisions… it’s all part of the future, MOT, and more.”

It certainly seems like Gunn is building towards his own take on DC Comics' Salvation Run, a six-issue miniseries that sees the government exile some of Earth's most dangerous metahuman criminals to the planet Cygnus 4019 (Salvation). Separate factions are formed as the villains struggle to survive and attempt to discover a means of escape.

This could ultimately lead to the DCU debut of Darkseid and the New Gods, as Salvation turns out to be a "training planet" for Apokolips in the comics.

We know that MOT will feature some sort of alliance between Lex Luthor and Superman, so it's possible that things get so out of control on Salvation that these bitter enemies are forced to work together to prevent a catastrophe. This is pure speculation, but could Brainiac - assuming he is Man of Tomorrow's big bad - end up being stranded on this prison planet?

“It's a very, very, very delicate balance when writing these things," Gunn said during an interview with Variety. "You’ve got to be able to tell the story in a way where people that already know the information are not going to be bored, and where people who don't know the information will get the information in an easy and simple way, but also not to be burdened down by too much sh*t. There needs to be an elegance to the storytelling. Too many mumbo jumbo things, to me, is always a thing that I [avoid]."

Be sure to share your own theories in the comments.

Peacemaker season 2 follows Chris Smith, the vigilante superhero, as he struggles to reconcile his past with his newfound sense of purpose while continuing to kick righteous evildoer butt in his misguided quest for peace at any cost. He discovers an alternate world where life is everything he wishes it could be. But this discovery also forces him to face his traumatic past and take the future into his own hands.

"The new season follows Christopher 'Chris' Smith, aka Peacemaker, the vigilante Super Hero as he struggles to reconcile his past with his newfound sense of purpose while continuing to kick righteous evil-doer butt in his misguided quest for peace at any cost.

In season 2, Peacemaker discovers an alternate world where life is everything he wishes it could be. But this discovery also forces him to face his traumatic past and take the future into his own hands.”

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ClungeOfSteel
ClungeOfSteel - 10/10/2025, 12:13 PM
LETS AIM FOR 95% THIS TIME!


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#IN🔫WETRUST
epc1122
epc1122 - 10/10/2025, 12:26 PM
@ClungeOfSteel - wonder how they got that fake stat. Just came up with a number I guess to be funny. 👍
Forthas
Forthas - 10/10/2025, 2:36 PM
@ClungeOfSteel - He had to scream...or PEOPLE WERE GOING TO DIE!!!!
epc1122
epc1122 - 10/10/2025, 12:16 PM
Found the finale to peacemaker to be a bit of a letdown but I think I built it up too much and my expectations were too high. I think that was due to gunns build up but i get he wanted to promote the show and it could have been his favorite thing to create. I don’t know too much about salvation run the comic series but it seems like a logical reason for Lex and Superman to team up. There was actually a Superboy episode that was similar where Superboy and Lex had to team up. One of my favorite episodes. I do plan on doing a marathons with Superman and peacemaker season 2 to see if I enjoy it more. Originally I wasn’t a fan of guardians 2 but after repeat viewings I appreciated it more. Same with Superman.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 10/10/2025, 1:03 PM
@epc1122 - you mentioned the Superboy TV show. We are now best friends!
I LOVED that show and Sherman Howard is my all time favorite Lex.

The special effects are a bad product of its time, but the range of comic-accurate stories told in those 100 episodes (S2 to 4 especially) was incredible.
epc1122
epc1122 - 10/10/2025, 2:51 PM
@lazlodaytona - there were so many episodes that I loved from that show. To be honest, I think some of the special effects still holds up. Do you have a preference between the two different superboys?
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 10/10/2025, 3:06 PM
@epc1122 - first. I've met them both. Gerard is more receptive and talkative. But, they're both genuinely good guys.

I'd have to lean Christopher just because his time in the role was WAY better (he actually was up for Lois and Clark until they found out he was just Superboy. I think it could have been an awesome continuation).

The Bizzaro stuff, Metalo, Microboy, his fake parents coming to visit, and Sherman Howard all just do it for me.

However, Stacie Haudick (whom I've met and I was a total mess around) was my 1st childhood crush. Season 1 right away. Oh, and I loved the Alien episodes from that season good stuff.

The guy who played pa kent is my favorite (the ma Kent from Reeve's movie is my favorite).

Oh, Gerard's multiverse stories were epic!!! LOVED them.

Yeah,.you've got me going. Now I want to watch Superboy shows all night tonight....
epc1122
epc1122 - 10/10/2025, 3:28 PM
@lazlodaytona - I think John had a slightly better suit but Gerard was more charismatic. Since Superman I’ve been watching more the old stuff too and love it. Love the episodes you mentioned. I also love the episode where he loses his memory and when Lex overtakes superboys body. When Dr Oct. took over spiderman it immediately reminded me of that Superboy episode. Gerard Christopher still looks like he could play Superman! Love that show. Ever see the ruby spears Superman cartoon?
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 10/10/2025, 3:51 PM
@epc1122 - absolutely I've seen it.

And I remember the Lex taking over Superboy (the pervert used x-ray vision to see through her top).

Also remember the memory loss.

Lois & Clark (I show i loathe) used so many of the storylines from Superboy it's amazing no one called them out.
epc1122
epc1122 - 10/10/2025, 4:02 PM
@lazlodaytona - I’m a huge Superman fan and enjoyed lois and Clark at the time, but now I see more of it’s faults. It did have some stories that I enjoyed. For Lois and Clark, I liked the shows introduction of new krypton. Tempest was a fun villain too. I don’t know, I can see bright spots in most versions. I think sometimes the stories are similar from previous versions because the character has been around for so long, probably difficult to come up with new things but it’s nice seeing different takes on the same stories.
HelloBoysImBack
HelloBoysImBack - 10/10/2025, 12:21 PM
Gunn laying groundwork

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WalletsClosed
WalletsClosed - 10/10/2025, 12:22 PM
The only groundwork it sets up for is a total and complete DCU reboot. Warner Bros and HBO clearly sees that Gunn is doing nothing but failing. Peacemaker Season 2 finale has a 7.2/10 on imdb, lower than GOT S8 Ep 1-3 and horrible for a TV show episode and especially a finale. Supershit has a 7.1 after just 3 months. Both flopped big time. No one cares about the Shit Commandos, and not one show from James Gunn has charted. Less than 700k people watch this garbage. Man of Steel made more money. James Gunn is a Disney plant.

Reboot the MCU and DCU
epc1122
epc1122 - 10/10/2025, 12:24 PM
@WalletsClosed - how would you reboot?
epc1122
epc1122 - 10/10/2025, 12:25 PM
@WalletsClosed - what does 3 months have anything to do with it?
WalletsClosed
WalletsClosed - 10/10/2025, 12:26 PM
@epc1122 - If Supershit is so much better than MOS, why does it have the same imdb rating and a lower metacritic rating? 3 months matter because it'll continue to drop. It'll prob be at a 6.9 in a couple months. It took Man of Steel 5 YEARS to drop to a 7.1 because of all the MCUTards
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 10/10/2025, 1:04 PM
@epc1122 - you really had to ask him that?
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 10/10/2025, 1:04 PM
@WalletsClosed - blah blah blah

Reboot the WalletsClosed
UltimaRex
UltimaRex - 10/10/2025, 2:25 PM
@WalletsClosed - User Comment Image
epc1122
epc1122 - 10/10/2025, 2:48 PM
@lazlodaytona - trying to find away to some semblance of a real conversation with him.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 10/10/2025, 2:58 PM
@epc1122 - I'm not sure why

You Can't Fix Stupid

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Reboot the @WalletsClosed
epc1122
epc1122 - 10/10/2025, 3:03 PM
@WalletsClosed - sorry for the delay in response, was at work. the numbers could also go up so just because it’s been three months, doesn’t mean it will go down more. Under what metric are you gauging that marvel fans lowered man of steels numbers? It could just be that people didn’t like the movie which they’re entitled to. What would marvel fans gain from that? Especially during that time, marvel was crushing it with reviews and at the box office. You could apply your logic that man of steel fans are purposely trying to lower the score of Superman since I think Snyder fans seem to have a more obsessive, passion for the movie. It’s small but vociferous. But again, I’m not sure what man of steel or Superman has to do with the finale to peacemaker. I can see maybe Superman being brought up because it’s the same universe, but again, bringing up a movie from 12 years ago is pretty nonessential for this topic.
epc1122
epc1122 - 10/10/2025, 3:24 PM
@lazlodaytona - as a Superman fan I try to see the best in people. He’s just passionate about things and has a difficult time with expressing his opinion. From what I’ve heard, not sure if it’s true, he’s just in college. Probably thinks it’s just a game. When someone has a tantrum it’s best to utilize planned ignoring but one of these days, I’d like to have a well thought out conversation with him. 👍
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 10/10/2025, 3:40 PM
@epc1122 - dang dood. Now YOU'RE my Superman. I fully support you.

except....

Reboot the @WalletsClosed
epc1122
epc1122 - 10/10/2025, 3:43 PM
@lazlodaytona - ha, thanks 😊
Ha1frican
Ha1frican - 10/10/2025, 12:24 PM
I enjoyed the finale but it wasn’t as strong as the rest of the season imo, I give it a 7/10. The emotional beats were perfect but it lacked and actual climax. I think we needed one more showdown between Chris and Rick maybe right as he was about to be put in the portal. It would have hit a little harder if he made it back through portal, tried to fight his way out, actually tries to fight Rick unlike the interrogation scene, and then Rick gets the upper hand and kicks him through the door and closes it for him to be left bloody and alone. Just needed a little bit more oomf at the end but otherwise it was a decent ending to a great season imo
Android
Android - 10/10/2025, 12:25 PM
Lex : got a 2k lick and I ain't even go pro
Rpendo
Rpendo - 10/10/2025, 12:36 PM
A filler season, but one that I largely enjoyed.

Fantastic acting, especially from Cena. Solid character-work.

Looking forward to Supergirl.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 10/10/2025, 2:29 PM
@Rpendo - end of 7th episode Cena bout broke my heart .... him losing his family once again and his dad ended up being a really good guy.
epc1122
epc1122 - 10/10/2025, 5:47 PM
@Rpendo - just curious why you would think it’s a filler season?
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 10/10/2025, 12:39 PM
I’m hearing some complaints in regards to Rick Flag Sr’s “heel turn” and this sudden hatred of metahumans he’s had and maybe I’m wrong but I didn’t take it that way…

I don’t think he hates all metahumans like Lex but thinks there are some bad ones that need to be taken care of and he views Chris to be one because he killed his son which stems from a personal vendetta aswell.

Please again correct me if I’m wrong but he never finds out the backstories about his Creature Commandos so he has no idea about their full stories other then them being in monsters and while he gives Superman the benefit of the doubt in the movie , this final scene I think shows that he’s perhaps coming to think negatively about the metahumans or feeling like their power is growing too much and should be contained…

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Granted , perhaps they could have fleshed it out more this season (like substitute the Red St Wild & Eagly stuff for more Flagg development) but I think the seeds are there.

Anyway I liked the finale as an emotional end to the character arcs of this season though I do have concerns about Gunn telling this seemingly intertwined story of the DCU that could perhaps fall into the recent pitfalls Marvel has had with its integrated tv & movie stories.

Overall , it has its flaws but I did like the season and episode!!.
Patient2670
Patient2670 - 10/10/2025, 12:42 PM
My two cents: As much as I've been completely entertained by James Gunn's DCU, thus far, I worry that he's falling into a trap that Marvel did. Everything he's done so far feels like it was written for insiders. It all feels like you have to already be familliar with the world, and it's all dependant on watching everything, in order to keep up. Fortunately for me, I'm a die hard, lifelong DC guy. But I can see where casual audiences could feel alienated or disappointed. So far, none of the 3 released projects have told a complete story on their own (Creature commandos comes the closest). "Superman (as fun as it is) feels like you pulled a random issue from the center of a stack of comics. Peacemaker relies heavily on having seen Superman, and ends on a "cliffhanger" that demands you wait to see "Man of Tomorrow" for a resolution. I'm just not sure how long the casual viewers will hang on. I'd really like to see the DCU tell some self contained stories. It's fine to introduce some characters or plot threads that carry or cross over, but I still firmly believe that each project should be satisfying on it's own. Again, I've enjoyed what I've seen so far, I just don't want them to sacrifice individual stories or characters, in favor of the larger jigsaw puzzle. Everyone has characters that they won't neccesarily want to go see a movie about, and they shouldn't be left behind as a result.
JackDeth
JackDeth - 10/10/2025, 1:03 PM
@Patient2670 - "Superman (as fun as it is) feels like you pulled a random issue from the center of a stack of comics." That's exactly how it's supposed to feel. That's how you started reading comics when we were kids. Very few people actually started from issue #1 of anything. My first comic was 'Uncanny X-men' #277 and it was glorious.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 10/10/2025, 2:42 PM
@Patient2670 - I'm with you. I surprisingly loved Creature Commandos. So good.

Superman? You nailed it. Random comic pulled.... Was it bad? By no means. Was it epic? Not even close.

What made me let down the most was honestly the other good metas in the film. Terrific was awesome. But. Right off the bat, they say Superman isn't the first by a long shot. Say what you will about Reeve's, Routh's and Henry's Supermen but those movies had a reverence sourrounding Superman. An "Awe" factor. This Supes? No more special than any other meta in this universe.

I'm actually more excited about the things Gunn isn't writing or directing: Supergirl, Clayface (yes, that one since it's a horror movie in a comicbook universe which really hasn't been done before), and more than anything Lanterns (tho it's a dumbass movie to make Hal, one of the top-teir DC characters of all time, being older. Did these idiots not learn from Snyder's Batman?!).

Every leader is gonna have screwups. However, this universe, outside of CC, I don't feel great about or all that excited.

P.S. another dumbass move was not having G.I. Robot unleashed in PM's Earth X. That would have been EPIC and the BIGGEST cameo ever for the show.
Patient2670
Patient2670 - 10/10/2025, 3:59 PM
@JackDeth - I totally get that. It's probably exactly why I was able to enjoy the movie as much as I did. But I'm not sure someone who is primarily a fan of the character, from either TV or film, rather than the comics, would have the same reaction.
Patient2670
Patient2670 - 10/10/2025, 4:05 PM
@lazlodaytona - Absolutely. And I'm not even ready to call it a screw up yet. If the projects that Gunn writes and directs himself are all intertwined, that's one thing. but I'll always argue that connected or intertwined as they may be, each movie ought still be able to be satisfying to an audience on it's own. I think it's time for some of the other things to start coming out and allowed to stand on their own. I remain hopeful and look forward to seeing them.
JackDeth
JackDeth - 10/10/2025, 4:15 PM
@Patient2670 - I guess. I spoke to a lot of people who never read any comics and they loved 'SUPERMAN' just the way it was. The fact that 'MR TERRIFIC' became a fan favorite (despite no one knowing his origin) should tell you that people don't need the whole story to enjoy what they get. They call this style of storytelling 'In media res'
Patient2670
Patient2670 - 10/10/2025, 5:52 PM
@JackDeth - Sure, look, I don't doubt they're out there. Mr. Terriffic was great, I'm glad people enjoyed his performance. I just don't think this is a sustainable model. Even a a big DC fan, I'm just saying, I'd like to see a complete and stand alone story at some point. I'd just rather not have to go see something like "Matter eating Lad" in order to have all the information I need to understand Wonder Woman.
epc1122
epc1122 - 10/10/2025, 5:54 PM
@lazlodaytona - I think Gunn is trying to go a different route with Superman than the ones you mentioned because he’s trying to make Superman more relatable and not like a god. Yet his Superman is still inspiring others. The Justice gang at first didn’t want to help and then they did. He also inspired civilians. I think you almost have to depower and demystify Superman because you don’t want to diminish the other characters. In Justice league, Superman annihilated steppenwolf to the point where you really didn’t need the other members. Gunn isn’t just building a Superman universe, he’s trying to build a dc universe.
JackDeth
JackDeth - 10/10/2025, 9:02 PM
@Patient2670 - I think it's more likely to be the other way around. Matter-Eater-Lad might show up in a Wonder Woman movie, which would be fine as long as it is done well. Like how we got Metamorpho in a Superman film. We're getting Green Lantern next, then Supergirl. I don't think we have anything to worry about.
Patient2670
Patient2670 - 10/10/2025, 10:57 PM
@JackDeth - I hope you're right. I'm really looking forward to both Supergirl and Lanterns... Clayface too.
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