Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D. Season 4 Turns 10, And Marvel Still Won't Say It's Canon

Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D. Season 4 Turns 10, And Marvel Still Won't Say It's Canon

Ten years ago today, Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D. opened season 4 with Gabriel Luna's Ghost Rider and ran three mini-seasons in one year. Marvel Television is gone. The canon fight isn't over!

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By NateBest - Sep 20, 2026 10:09 AM EST
Filed Under: Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.

It's hard to believe it's been ten years since a black Dodge Charger pulled up on ABC and a flaming skull showed up on network television on a Tuesday night. Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D. opened its 4th season on September 20th, 2016, and I don't think I had ever been so excited for an episode of it.

Season 4 is the one people are still arguing about, and it still hasn't been settled after a decade.

Gabriel Luna played Robbie Reyes, the first live-action Ghost Rider since Nicolas Cage's two films, and the first live-action Robbie Reyes anywhere. He showed up in the premiere, "The Ghost," and the show gave him the whole first stretch of the year.

I don't think anyone at ABC knew what they had…

Then, after eight episodes, they let him go.

Robbie's exit came in "The Laws Of Inferno Dynamics" on December 6th, 2016. He trapped his uncle Eli Morrow inside the quantum battery Morrow built to stop it going off over Los Angeles, then refused the chain Coulson threw him and rode through the portal with Eli instead. The show leaves the door open when Coulson gets a line afterward sharing that he knew of a previous Ghost Rider who got out. Luna came back for the last two episodes, "The Return" and "World's End," for ten Robbie Reyes episodes in total.

Ten episodes for a character that fans have wanted back for a decade!

Season 4 split its 22 episodes into three chunks, and each one ran as its own short series with its own title card.

Ghost Rider ran episodes 1 through 8, September to December 2016. LMD took 9 through 15 in early 2017, built around Mallory Jansen as Aida. Agents Of Hydra closed it out with 16 through 22, from April to May.

That last stretch is the one I would recommend to anyone who isn't familiar with the show. Aida builds a virtual world where Hydra won and rewrites the whole team inside it. Daisy is a Hydra agent. Simmons is dead. Fitz is rich and awful. Brett Dalton's Ward is back because here he never turned.

The third stretch opens on an episode called "What If...", four years before Disney+ gave that title to the animated series. Both come from the 1977 Marvel comic of the same name.

Aida's endgame was a machine called "Project Looking Glass" to build herself a real body and walk her Madame Hydra persona out of the simulation. For a show people had written off two seasons earlier, that's a LOT of ambition!

So why didn't anyone watch it?

The season 4 premiere drew 3.44 million viewers and a 1.1 in the 18-49 demo overnight. Live+3 pulled it to 5.55 million and a 2.0, because the audience was watching on their DVRs by then (remember when those were a thing?!). To put it into perspective, the 2013 pilot did 12.1 million and a 4.7.

One of the best-reviewed years of the show was the same year that barely a quarter of the original audience was still there.

ABC moved it to Fridays for season 5, a two-hour premiere at 8 on December 1st, 2017, settling into 9 the week after. Friday is where networks park shows they expect to be on their way out. The thing survived three more years in that slot and went out on a planned finale in 2020 with the ending it wanted, which is something most shows on television never get, regardless of how many people are watching.

Marvel sold the show on "It's All Connected," and that was the pitch back in 2013. The connections were real. They also only ever went one direction: the show reacted to the movies, and the movies never once acknowledged the show.

Kevin Feige was made Chief Creative Officer in October 2019, Jeph Loeb's exit from Marvel Television was reported the same month, and Marvel TV was folded into Marvel Studios that December. Luna's Ghost Rider series for Hulu, which Luna said was far enough along that scripts were being finalized and sets were going up, was cancelled on September 25th, 2019. Variety broke it, citing a source who described a creative impasse. Hulu never commented on that.

Season 7 aired in 2020, by which point the division that made it no longer existed.

In July 2021 director James Gunn said in a series of replies on Twitter that he didn't count the pre-WandaVision shows as part of the MCU, and Marvel Studios' official timeline book for Phases 1 through 4 left the series out. Coulson's resurrection, the thing the whole show was built on, isn't in it.

Marvel's position has changed since... Brad Winderbaum, Marvel Studios' head of streaming, television and animation, said in December 2024 it's "exciting for me to think about how to square those ABC shows with the canon," and later said he'd rewatched all seven seasons. Fans read the Cybertek reference in Daredevil: Born Again season 2 as Marvel nodding at it.

There was never an official answer regarding it being canon or not, and the cast has stopped tiptoeing around it. Chloe Bennet said at Dragon Con in September 2025 that "we are not considered canon," while figuring the show makes "some weird random comeback" eventually.

Marvel has never issued an official statement either way.

Gabriel Luna plays Tommy Miller on HBO's The Last Of Us, where he went series regular for season 2 in April 2025, and he told us last October he'd come back as Ghost Rider. Clark Gregg turned up in Netflix's Zero Day, and Ming-Na Wen still has Fennec Shand.

As for a revival, it's so far been only rumors... Popverse reported in November 2024 that Marvel Comics editor-in-chief C.B. Cebulski told Osaka Comic Con there were no plans to continue it just yet, and anything you've seen since about S.H.I.E.L.D. characters turning up in VisionQuest is fan speculation.

What season 4 had going for it was a writers' room with very little left to lose, and it spent that on a Ghost Rider, a robot-duplicate arc and seven episodes inside a simulation where the heroes had already lost.

Ten years later I still think Luna's Ghost Rider is one of the best things Marvel TV put on screen, and I'd take him over most of what's been on Disney+ since.

What did you think of Robbie Reyes? Which was your favorite season?

Sound off in the comments!

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NateBest
NateBest - 9/20/2026, 1:20 AM
After seeing what they did in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. with Ghost Rider, I'm SUPER excited to see what a full budget film with Ryan Gosling will do 🤓
FinnishDude
FinnishDude - 9/20/2026, 10:06 AM
I will never understand why so many people are so desperate to see a show that was mediocre at its best to be canon. Is not like it introduced some wider lore that should be revisited or had characters who people are dying to see again.
dragon316
dragon316 - 9/20/2026, 10:26 AM
@FinnishDude - again fans know nothing history and lore there not experts if fans where experts they will have known x23 in 1980 when wolverine series was made who are experts on lore and history people make these character marvel fans learn what they read watch fans are idiots if they think experts on lore and history when it changes alll time in years
Lokiwasright
Lokiwasright - 9/20/2026, 10:32 AM
Agents of shield was like the that lamb that was sacrificed and the Disney plus mcu shows possible.

That lamb now doesn't matter any more.
Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 9/20/2026, 10:39 AM
@Lokiwasright - neither those Disney Plus show, i can see people remembering Agents of SHIELD fondos but have you heard anyone saying "oh boy Ms Marvel chenged my life!"?
YonnyLayna
YonnyLayna - 9/20/2026, 12:56 PM
@Malatrova15 - Lasted more seasons that Wonderman and She Hulk xd
LSHF
LSHF - 9/20/2026, 10:55 AM
I LOVED the show and still have the Blu-rays that were officially released.
LSHF
LSHF - 9/20/2026, 10:57 AM
@LSHF - P.S. And I still watch it. Thankfully Disney+ has it since they never released the final seasons on home media.
santiagoch
santiagoch - 9/20/2026, 11:11 AM
I don't understand this site's obsession with the canon.
Bucky74
Bucky74 - 9/20/2026, 11:20 AM
The way it split towards the end with that Earth cracking event kind of makes it impossible to be cannon. No heroes or Avengers ever mentioned again after a certain season it just split because Marvel Films decided they didn’t want it as cannon anymore. It’s like it took place in the same universe then split into a different one without any heroes
SuperiorHeckler
SuperiorHeckler - 9/20/2026, 11:39 AM
@Bucky74 - The casual resurrection of Coulson hopelessly cheapened his death in THE AVENGERS. A LMD (Life Model Decoy) not revealed until the very last episodes would have been the superior choice IMO. 🤨
Bucky74
Bucky74 - 9/20/2026, 11:48 AM
@SuperiorHeckler - Agreed. Although to be fair characters get killed and come back all the time in comics. But in this instance a LMD who evolved to feel the same emotions as the real Phil Coulson would have been a better character arc.
YonnyLayna
YonnyLayna - 9/20/2026, 12:58 PM
@Bucky74 - Kinda the with post Edgame's own earth cracking Celestial hand event
Astroman
Astroman - 9/20/2026, 11:45 AM
It ended up garbage and Coulson's return was lame - granted it’s a common occurrence in comic books. No reason for it to be cannon and more reasons it shouldn’t be.
TheAmericanHero
TheAmericanHero - 9/20/2026, 11:45 AM
The entire show was based around alternate and divergent timelines and events which reshape reality, and we live in an MCU which has embraced the concept of a multiverse where EVERYTHING Marvel has a place on some level, yet people on here still enjoy flaming AoS for not being canon or connected at all.

It obvious AoS isn't a part of the main timeline anymore, but it's very easy to acknowledge it as an alternate timeline that the TVA has since pruned out of existence.

In my mind, the people who purposely exclude AoS are simply doing so out of the same petty insecurities that drive hordes of cry babies to Zack Snyder articles to endlessly complain about the Snyderverse anytime Zack mentions his films online. It's just really weird behavior no matter how much justification you feel you have in raging towards it.

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TemporarilyHere
TemporarilyHere - 9/20/2026, 11:51 AM
@TheAmericanHero -

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Your leader is a self-aggrandizing moron, and his cult is one of desperate gullible idiots.
TheAmericanHero
TheAmericanHero - 9/20/2026, 11:55 AM
The previously completely separate universes of The FoX-Men, all 3 Sony's Spider-Man franchises, Johnny Storm from Fantastic Four, Electra and Blade, and the Ang Lee Hulk is rumored to appear in Secret Wars as a version of Maestro.... All of those weren't even initially connected to the MCU proper at all but it's super easy for everyone to acknowledge that a Multiverse connects those...... Yet a TV show literally born from the MCU doesn't get a pass simply because y'all didn't enjoy it that much.... Is such a mind-blowingly retarded take I can't even process the rational thinking behind it.
TheAmericanHero
TheAmericanHero - 9/20/2026, 11:57 AM
@TemporarilyHere - my leader?

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Y'all are so weird hahaha
TemporarilyHere
TemporarilyHere - 9/20/2026, 12:01 PM
@TheAmericanHero -

Leader, icon, hegemon, captain, chief, enabler, ...

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Same thing, just take your pick.
TheAmericanHero
TheAmericanHero - 9/20/2026, 12:14 PM
@TemporarilyHere - thank you for so profoundly accurately demonstrating how you see only in extremes and are clueless to recognize anything beyond your fervent fanaticism. I couldn't have manufactured a better example had I spent all day trying. Took you all of a few minutes to show up and prove my point. I appreciate your dedication to your insanity, as sad and pathetic as it is.

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TemporarilyHere
TemporarilyHere - 9/20/2026, 12:24 PM
@TheAmericanHero -

You brought your precious lord and saviour up in an article that has literally nothing to do with him, for no other reason than to accuse others of being weirdly obsessed with him.

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You sure you wanna continue down this path you've chosen?
BackwardGalaxy
BackwardGalaxy - 9/20/2026, 11:47 AM
It wasn't that good. And being canon or not would change nothing. I do think Quake had potential as a Hill replacement, but the only two places that would've made sense were a show that sucked and a movie that I kinda like but no one else does. So, meh.
Slotherin
Slotherin - 9/20/2026, 11:51 AM
Eh, maybe some day I'll give this show another go around. It was hard to get on board with and I gave up relatively quick. Inhumans at least wasn't much to get through for the little pay-off. This show seemed like a LOT to get through if you don't care about the made for it characters and for not the most/best pay-off for fans of source material. It was very baffling early on in that regard.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 9/20/2026, 12:01 PM
@Slotherin - well , if you gave it a shot again then like any show , you might come to like the characters that the show centered around like any other series..:).

The first 13 or so episodes in hindsight helped build the team & their dynamics and then the second half really kicks into gear once TWS happens and then from then on , it’s pretty much foot on the gas tbh!!.
TemporarilyHere
TemporarilyHere - 9/20/2026, 11:53 AM
Easily one of the best CBTV seasons ever produced, regardless of streaming platform or parent company.

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Hard to pick a favourite arc between Ghost Rider, LMDs, and Agents of HYDRA.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 9/20/2026, 12:02 PM
@TemporarilyHere - agreed…

While I quite liked S5 and S6 &7 to a lesser degree , 4 remains the peak of that show imo.
TemporarilyHere
TemporarilyHere - 9/20/2026, 12:05 PM
@TheVisionary25 -

It was pure peak, not just for the show, but for this site too, and for those of us who were here during its run.

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TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 9/20/2026, 12:17 PM
@TemporarilyHere - yep , hell of a time.
KetracelWhite74
KetracelWhite74 - 9/20/2026, 11:59 AM
The show was made against Feige's recommendation not to do it, so no wonder it's never going to be mentioned in the main MCU.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 9/20/2026, 12:29 PM
AOS remains a really good series and an underrated CBTV gem imo…

S4 especially was near perfect imo and honestly while I like Robbie Reyes and his story arc in the show , I felt Agents of Hydra was the peak of the season especially if you had been invested in these characters for the past 4 seasons or so.

Also even as someone who doesn’t hate/dislike Secret Invasion as much as others (though it’s not good) , AOS did that trope/idea better then that show did with the LMDS especially in the finale episode of that arc “Self Control” which is one of the best episode of the show period with great tension , suspense etc!!.

EskimoJ
EskimoJ - 9/20/2026, 12:37 PM
Yep, I maintain that AoS 4 is up there with -- if it doesn't exceed -- any/every individual season of any CBTV show.

And the fact they managed that on network TV is astounding.
lotusflow3r
lotusflow3r - 9/20/2026, 12:37 PM
Why do so many people always write "canon" "cannon", for chrissakes?
lotusflow3r
lotusflow3r - 9/20/2026, 12:39 PM
Like, the proper spelling is literally right there under their eyes in the article, yet they go on using "cannon"!
MadThanos
MadThanos - 9/20/2026, 12:51 PM
The AoS fans are the most passionate people. They're still discussing if it is cannon or not.
YonnyLayna
YonnyLayna - 9/20/2026, 1:05 PM
Would have been fitting putting this Agents of Shield universe as the same reality as the Iluminati from Multiverse, giving that Peggy Carter and Black Bolt were there.

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