A Killer BATMAN? Comic Book Writer Grant Morrison Makes A Case For Why That Should NEVER Happen

A Killer BATMAN? Comic Book Writer Grant Morrison Makes A Case For Why That Should NEVER Happen

While it hasn't always been the case on screen, the comic book version of Batman has a strict no-kill rule. Now, Batman/Deadpool writer Grant Morrison makes a case for why the hero should stick by it...

By JoshWilding - Oct 20, 2025 02:10 PM EST
Filed Under: DC Comics
Source: Bleeding Cool

Should superheroes kill? It's a question that continues to be hotly debated among comic book fans, but everyone can agree that there are some characters who should never take a life. Spider-Man is one, and Batman is undoubtedly another. 

The Caped Crusader frequently killed crooks when he was first introduced, often in quite brutal fashion. As DC Comics moved into the 1940s, Nazis became his main target, and it took years after that for his no-kill, no-guns rule to be firmly established as "canon."

On screen, Batman has frequently murdered. Tim Burton's Dark Knight didn't hold back, while much has been said about the hero's decision to let Ra's al Ghul perish at the end of Batman Begins. Unsurprisingly, Zack Snyder's Batman killed indiscriminately and, controversially, wielded a few firearms.

Comic book writer Grant Morrison has written a lot of Batman comics, including the upcoming crossover featuring Bruce Wayne and Marvel's Merc with a Mouth, Deadpool (Batman/Deadpool #1 goes on sale next month).

During a recent Reddit AMA, he weighed in on why Batman doesn't—and should never—kill his foes:

"If Batman kills he becomes a crazy criminal in a weird costume and Jim Gordon would have to hunt him down and bring him to justice. The glory of Bruce Wayne is that he refuses to be a killer. He has trained in every martial arts discipline in order to not have to kill and that's what makes him mad and magnificent, and a superhero."

"He's fine with intimidation and injury, of course, but killing his enemies would destroy him. He catches bad guys and leaves them trussed up outside the nearest precinct, so that the legal system can take care of them... if the legal system lets them loose, he catches them all over again..."

Much has been said over the years about whether Batman needs to kill those he locks up in Arkham Asylum, particularly when someone like The Joker repeatedly breaks free. Like many villains, not only does the Clown Prince of Crime target those close to Batman, but innocents often suffer, as well. 

Still, if Batman crossed that line, it does somewhat feel like he becomes no better than those he's attempting to protect Gotham City from. Whether the Caped Crusader should kill in self-defence is another matter, and that's certainly something we've seen on the page many times. 

Do you think Batman should kill? Let us know your thoughts in the comments section. 

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HistoryofMatt
HistoryofMatt - 10/20/2025, 2:46 PM
@THEDARKKNIGHT1939 - Every tard points to this but do you know what they ignore?

Michael Keaton's Batman killing his enemies in two movies directed by Tim Burton. One time, he shoved a bomb down a clown's pants, pushed him off camera where he exploded, and then smiled when he died.

I guess you forgot that. Like people like you forgot when a powered Christopher Reeves Superman tortured a depowered Zod by crushing every bone in his hand and then throwing him down an icy pit to his death, or laughing after Lois Lane punched out Ursa who then also fell into the same icy pit to her death.
KennKathleen
KennKathleen - 10/20/2025, 3:01 PM
@THEDARKKNIGHT1939 - User Comment Image

....Also Batman

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HashTagSwagg
HashTagSwagg - 10/20/2025, 3:19 PM
@THEDARKKNIGHT1939 - This is the Batman which many fans consider to be their definitive Batman.
WalletsClosed
WalletsClosed - 10/20/2025, 3:26 PM
@HashTagSwagg - Dude killed more people in this one scene than Affleck's Batman could ever hope to kill
Kadara
Kadara - 10/20/2025, 3:30 PM
@THEDARKKNIGHT1939 - Yeah Batman has always been a psycho way before Zack Snyder got his hands on him lol!
dragon316
dragon316 - 10/20/2025, 3:45 PM
@THEDARKKNIGHT1939 - sad not one fan never mentions original movies of Superman and Batman killing ?si=9Ei2BLHltCGQUKFc
dragon316
dragon316 - 10/20/2025, 3:47 PM
@dragon316 - ?si=Jg2Om6bvh5UJjxvE
TheRevelation
TheRevelation - 10/20/2025, 4:16 PM
@HistoryofMatt - Precisely. The head canon lol. This why Jason Todd is always curious about that Joker exception.

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Huskers
Huskers - 10/20/2025, 4:21 PM
@HistoryofMatt - yea agree with you on Tim Burton’s Batman, but Christopher Reeve’s Superman never killed. In the extended version that ran on tv it showed the Phantom Zone criminals being apprehended by the authorities. So bit of a stretch to say he murdered them. Clearly that wasn’t the director’s intent and it doesn’t fit at all with Reeve’s portrayal of the character.
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 10/20/2025, 4:31 PM
@TheRevelation - "phuck batman" and "lights out bitch" will always bee tied to these characters in my head canon and for that I thank the titans show.
Huskers
Huskers - 10/20/2025, 4:35 PM
@dragon316 - Christopher Reeve's Superman never killed. In the extended version that ran on tv it showed the Phantom Zone criminals being apprehended by the authorities. So bit of a stretch to say he murdered them. Clearly that wasn’t the director’s intention and it doesn’t fit with how the character was portrayed in the films at all.
TheRevelation
TheRevelation - 10/20/2025, 4:37 PM
@harryba11zack - It had its moments. Esai as Deathstroke is good, more so than Arrow Slade in my opinion. We'll never know about "The Perfect Deathstroke" as he only got a few minutes a photo shoot.
SuperiorHeckler
SuperiorHeckler - 10/20/2025, 5:19 PM
@HistoryofMatt - Depending on one's definition of what is and isn't considered "canon" but, a deleted scene from the original SUPERMAN 2 (which made it onto TV versions) shows the 3 still very much alive evil Kryptonians being arrested and taken-away by the Arctic Patrol following the Fortress of Solitude battle. But I get your point... 🤓
HistoryofMatt
HistoryofMatt - 10/20/2025, 5:54 PM
@Huskers - You tards always bring up "the extended version."

That's not canon. What's canon is what's in the theater. What's in the theater is Superman torturing Zod before killing him.

Stop making excuses. It happened. It's what we all knew for 30 years.
Corruptor
Corruptor - 10/20/2025, 2:42 PM
If the line has already been crossed into vigilantism, we could also say he's no better than his foes if he gives them a good beating but leaves them alive.
Humperdink
Humperdink - 10/20/2025, 2:52 PM
@Corruptor -

If the line has already been crossed into vigilantism, we could also say he's no better than his foes


His foes usually aren't other vigilantes. They're mostly psychotic murderous psycho/sociopaths.

Not arguing that vigilantism is ideal but someone like Killer Croc or Two-Face isn't a vigilante.
MrEngrish
MrEngrish - 10/20/2025, 2:44 PM
Rets keep it that way. That one reason why I no rike Affreck Batman.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 10/20/2025, 2:50 PM
@MrEngrish - that comment makes your username ironic.
KennKathleen
KennKathleen - 10/20/2025, 3:02 PM
@lazlodaytona - *iconic
dragon316
dragon316 - 10/20/2025, 3:48 PM
@MrEngrish - ?si=Jg2Om6bvh5UJjxvE
HashTagSwagg
HashTagSwagg - 10/20/2025, 3:51 PM
@KennKathleen - User Comment Image
MrEngrish
MrEngrish - 10/20/2025, 3:58 PM
@dragon316 - That no justify Affreck.
MrEngrish
MrEngrish - 10/20/2025, 3:59 PM
@HashTagSwagg - Why picture of Keke Parmer?
Lokiwasright
Lokiwasright - 10/20/2025, 2:53 PM
Why can't there be a batman that kills out of many reboots, films and cartoons?
MaxPaint
MaxPaint - 10/20/2025, 4:22 PM
@Lokiwasright - There are more than a few versions of that. But people like to sell their own narrative.

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centaur
centaur - 10/20/2025, 4:44 PM
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mck13
mck13 - 10/20/2025, 3:01 PM
Whats funny is thats not what WE WANT! I LOVED BEN AFFLECT BATMAN! I understood he was an old & retired Batman who lost Robin. etc & just saw an alien introduce himself to the world.....Ben Affleck Batman has the BESTR FIGHT SCENES out of ANY BATMAN whether it's film or cartoon! Even the GOAT BATMAN says Ben Affleck Batman's THE BEST ON FILM!
UltimaRex
UltimaRex - 10/20/2025, 3:12 PM
Comics? No.

Live action? It depends.

Like it or not, Burton broke the rule back in '89. So that really depends on context now.

I don't expect the DCU Batman to kill.
WalletsClosed
WalletsClosed - 10/20/2025, 3:25 PM
Nonsense and this is only held as a double standard against Snyder. Before him, no one cared. For Christ sakes, Burton's Batman was a mass murderer with a smile on his face and Bale's Batman was a hypocrite who killed multiple times before AND after the Joker. Throughout all of Live action history, Batman has killed. The only ones that didn't are Clooney and Pattinson, the worst Batmen. There's not a conincidence. This rule doesn't work in live action for someone like Batman. For Superman? Maybe, but for Batman, a vigilante with no powers? It doesn't make sense. The rule was made in the comics because of the Comics Code Authority and butthurt grandmas didn't want their kids reading a killer. But Batman, killer or not, is still a hero. The same way a police officer that kills a violent aggressive criminal (legally ofc) would be seen as one. The no kill rule (For Batman) is a rule that should stay in the comics.

Reboot the MCU and DCU
dragon316
dragon316 - 10/20/2025, 3:52 PM
@WalletsClosed - what about super villians ?

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dragon316
dragon316 - 10/20/2025, 3:50 PM
In comics Batman has killed villians supervillains not regular villians ?si=MF9ZVx6jETX-oNQ1
ModHaterSLADE
ModHaterSLADE - 10/20/2025, 4:11 PM
Even Burton's Batman was killing Mofos. It happens🤷🏾‍♂️
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 10/20/2025, 4:18 PM
batman has always killed, you younglings just need to accept that it is part of his history, long before we all was even born in birth with the pregant.


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TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 10/20/2025, 4:53 PM
I don’t think Batman should kill personally because he wants there to be a delineation between him and the criminals he fights since he’s already a vigilante taking the law into his own hands…

Plus it just makes the story & character more interesting when that rule is tested rather then him killing everyone he deems bad willy nilly .

Something like Affleck’s Batman could have worked as a redemption story of a man who has suffered a lot and thus lost his way but is ultimately brought back to the light due to Superman but it’s just not my preferred take personally.

Hopefully DCU Batman emphasizes that rule then other live action iterations have because while I enjoyed Keaton’s Batman , I didn’t like him killing his enemies either when he got the chance.
SuperiorHeckler
SuperiorHeckler - 10/20/2025, 5:24 PM
A better argument would be just how many innocent lives have been snuffed-out by the murderous, blood-thirsty, evil psychopaths that Batman RUFUSES to neutralize himself???

The number of those victims must be legion at this point. Classic Batman may not kill himself but, he is still very much indirectly responsible for myriad of deaths nonetheless IMO. 🤨
Batmangina
Batmangina - 10/20/2025, 5:25 PM
"If Batman kills he becomes a crazy criminal in a weird costume and Jim Gordon would have to hunt him down and bring him to justice."

THIS

Also, MOVIES ARE NOT COMICS.

Most directors don't know shit about the canon or characters. Does anyone think otherwise?
TK420
TK420 - 10/20/2025, 5:45 PM
The fact that so many think heroes should be killers is disturbing....

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