X-Men Star Inde Navarrette Turned Down This Major Franchise To Join The MCU As Rogue

@MCUKnight11 - yep

Plus a character that can evolve grow and be more at the forefront which might be more exciting for her as an actor rather then a likely small part of an ensemble.

Should have been Sophie Thatcher

@Vigor - Yes we do know. Stop shilling. She [frick]ing sucks as Rogue. No one wants a midget Rogue

@THEDARKKNIGHT1939 - well thats nothing new. Shes done work, but nothing notable until her memorable breakout.

Quite similar to Leo back in his R+J and Titanic days. God 97 and 98 was mad.

JLaw when she had her rise...and even Shia when he wasn't persona no grata.

I see a similar pattern here.

@THEDARKKNIGHT1939 - Sophie is cool, I ca. See her more of a villian though... and who knows. Their clearly casting in this agre group (early to mid 20's) so in the sequels or spin offs these guys will still be on their list. There are so many characters they can get to so I think all these fan favourite actorss will likely come through at some point.

@THEDARKKNIGHT1939 - I don't think trendy is the right word. Trendy was like the entire cast from Saved By The Bell in the early 90s or the 90210 cast.

Navarette's performance demonstrated ability and range in that ability. That's priority one when casting an actress for a character like Rogue as long as she kinda sorta can look like her. Dye her hair and have her adopt some sort of southern accent and this can be fantastic.

@FireGunn - Her height means so little to this conversation its silly to keep bringing it up lol.

Hugh Jackman is 6 2" and has won the whole planet over in capturing a supposed to be 5 3" Wolverine from the comics. He looked enough like him in the face and embodied his personality in excellent ways that reminded of the character in the books. The same can happen with Navarette and Rogue.

@TheAmericanHero - People did the same with Ledger for Joker until they saw his perfection in the role.

@FireGunn - valid point “Sugar”

@pucrepeap - Sophie Thatcher and Margaret Qualley look like Rogue (At least more than Inde)

@TheAmericanHero - Sadie 100% fits Jean more than Inde does Rogue. Sadie is an actual white redhead. Inde is a latina who has nothing in common with Rogue. She doesn't look like her and I seriously doubt she can pull the accent off. But fine, I'll copy and paste my very long response to why I'd think she'd make an awful Rogue.

But to address this "She's half Latina half Australian. And yes, shes a hot young woman. She does look like her." You would not accept a half black, half white Rogue that's a hot young woman and you know it. And no, she looks absolutely nothing like her. Rogue is a pale, white, Christian southern belle. Inde is not. Now here's my LONG response.

Go watch Captain America Brave New World and Shira Haas in that and you'll see what I'm talking about. Height should be a (key word A not THE but apart of the role) decider in the same way weight or age should be. I wouldn't want a 300 pound Rogue either. I wouldn't want a 45 year old Rogue. You can like an actor, think they're a good actor, and still not like them in a certain role. I love Steve Buscemi. He's one of my favorite actors ever. If he was cast as Superman or Batman, I'd never watch anything DC related ever again. Yes, the movie overall was shit but I brought up her height because it was clearly observable and actively took me out the film. That's a problem. If I get taken out of a film, there's a good chance I won't come back in and I'll hate it. "She's an up and comer, fresh off a hit title and people want to see more of her." Yes, and this was the only reason she was cast.

I don't think she looks even remotely anything like Rogue. If she were paled and had Rogue's facial structure, I'd be fine with it but she doesn't fit the description at all. She's latina, slightly tan, and nothing about her gives off Rogue in the slightest. Also, I find the hypocrisy amazing. People always say you can't race swap characters whose race is integral to their character which I'd agree. It's why Rogue shouldn't be race swapped. Her identity is fundamentally important to her character as a white southern belle with a raspy southern accent. Even with all the dialectic coaches, I don't see Inde doing the accent that well, if she even attempts it. Not only will it probably sound off, but it'll probably look off as well. I'm sorry, but race/ethnicity does matter here. I can't take an Arizona born Latina trying to pull a southern accent off seriously. Once again, this will be another thing to take me out the movie.

I'm not exactly asking for someone that's "voluptuously built" but someone that has Rogue's presence. Rogue has a physicality and presence that communicates her power even before she speaks, similar to Wonder Woman and Storm in a way. She's supposed to be more built, athletic, tall, curvy, and an overall strong frame. I'm not asking for a bodybuilder or anything but Inde has the wrong body type. Yes, she can go to the gym but I've noticed that the standards for women in Superhero films aren't the same as men. Men NEED to fit the body type of their characters for the most part whereas the women can just be as skinny as they want. It's why someone like Gal Gadot can be cast as Wonder Woman whereas Henry Cavill/Corenswet NEEDS to get built or they aren't getting the role. There's outliers and exceptions, but it makes me think they won't really try getting her fit. I wouldn't be surprised if she stays relatively the same with barely an ounce more muscle. Qualley fits the role more based off height alone (She's also a better actress imo). Hell, Milly Alcock is 5'5" and she took me out the movie sometimes as Supergirl. The action in that movie felt so fake partly because of her height and petite frame. Inde is just as petite and 5 inches smaller. Rogue is supposed to be a larger than life charismatic character and I don't see Inde pulling that off either. I get that she's an actor and she's going to act, but everything I've seen from her suggests they'll go a different route with the character which is probably my main problem.

I am almost 100% confident they're going to go the Goth Rogue route from Xmen Evolution. There's a reason she got the role after Obsession and I think they'll make her similar to that personality/style over XTAS/Comic Rogue. It's my main fear and if they go that route I won't even bother with the movie. It's either that or they'll go the Anna Paquin version of Rogue which is arguably even worse. I don't want a watered down, insecure version of Rogue who isn't confident in herself.

The worst part of this casting is how stunt/hype casting it feels. It feels like Disney/Marvel saw the hottest new actress in Hollywood and snatched her for a major role before her momentum cooled, then figured out which X-Man to put her in. It feels like they just wanted part in the popularity. Do you think she'd be Rogue if it wasn't for Obsession? It feels like more corporate nonsense over quality.

Sophie Thatcher, Margaret Qualley, and Odessa A'Zion (Yes I think Odessa would've been better) would all be better choices.

@FireGunn - I agree with point 1 (for guys)... for girls, I don't think its as big a deal. We will find out I guess.

Points two and three are overstated. Inde in the face actually does look like Rogue and Hugh is super reliable with a long history of delivering winners but Inde is just revving her motor. Unless Obsession was a fluke, shes got the stuff to deliver well more than the goods.

@MCUKnight11 - i actually like Gladiator 2 lol.

I will say though that’s largely because of Denzel in that film.

@MotherGooseUPus - I love Denzel Washington...but he is just so out of place in the movie.

@BiffDitko - Backrooms was okay. Obsession was good.

@FireGunn - Is there anything you like? I'm not saying this to be a prick, for once, I'm genuinely interested.

@BiffDitko - I liked Spiderman Brand New Day. Enough with this talking point