SUPERMAN Director James Gunn Doubles Down On Divisive Jor-El Twist; Explains Why Ultraman vs. Krypto Was Cut

SUPERMAN Director James Gunn Doubles Down On Divisive Jor-El Twist; Explains Why Ultraman vs. Krypto Was Cut

Superman writer and director James Gunn has doubled down on putting a new spin on Clark Kent's Kryptonian parents, and weighs in on cutting the moment Ultraman punches Krypto the Superdog. Check it out...

By JoshWilding - Sep 24, 2025 12:09 PM EST
Filed Under: Superman

Superman proved to be a fan-pleasing adventure for the hero when it opened in theaters earlier this year. However, there was one creative decision that's likely to split opinions for years to come (not dissimilar to Superman killing General Zod in Man of Steel).

In case it wasn't obvious, we're talking about filmmaker James Gunn's decision to reveal that Jor-El and Lara sent their son to Earth with the intention of him conquering the planet and forming a harem, creating a "New Krypton."

Gunn has already said that he won't be retconning the twist and doubled down on wanting to put his own spin on the Superman mythos in the movie's Director's Commentary. 

"I am a big Superman fan. I don't want to change important, integral things; his goodness of heart, the fact that he won't kill, the fact that he's in love with Lois Lane, even the curl on the head," the DC Studios co-CEO explained. "So the question is, 'What can you add to the mythos that's a little bit different, that doesn't really essentially change who the character is?'"

"I think it works," Gunn said of the Jor-El twist. "It is not something that is going to be retrofitted in the future. It is the fact of Superman's life."

Heading down this route pushes Superman to further embrace his human parents, and the movie ends with him replacing Jor-El and Lara's message in the Fortress of Solitude with old home movies of his childhood in Smallville. 

Elaborating on his approach to casting Jonathan and Martha Kent, Gunn said, "The ageing movie stars that normally play Jon and Martha Kent...often great people, often intelligent people, but they were farmers and they lived a life that was on the fields. It's unlikely that you end up looking like John Schneider from 'Smallville,' even though I love 'Smallville.'"

There are plenty of highlights to be found in Superman's Director's Commentary, including Gunn's revealing that Ultraman punching Krypto in the Fortress was cut because test audiences thought he'd killed the Superdog. 

He also called Milly Alcock's Supergirl "my favourite characterisations of any superhero character ever," describing her as a "darker" character than "your mother's Supergirl." 

How are you feeling about Superman's big twist now that it's been a few months since we all saw the movie for the first time?

Superman, DC Studios' first feature film to hit the big screen, is set to soar into theaters worldwide this summer from Warner Bros. Pictures.

In his signature style, James Gunn takes on the original superhero in the newly imagined DC universe with a singular blend of epic action, humor and heart, delivering a Superman who’s driven by compassion and an inherent belief in the goodness of humankind.  

The movie stars David Corenswet in the dual role of Superman/Clark Kent, Rachel Brosnahan as Lois Lane and Nicholas Hoult as Lex Luthor.

Also appearing are Edi Gathegi, Anthony Carrigan, Nathan Fillion, Isabela Merced, Skyler Gisondo, Sara Sampaio, María Gabriela de Faría, Wendell Pierce, Alan Tudyk, Pruitt Taylor Vince, Neva Howell, and Milly Alcock.

"Superman is an indescribable joy," we said in our review"A beautiful, moving thrill, David Corenswet is the perfect Man of Steel in a movie packed full of ideas. Fortunately, under James Gunn’s expert direction, all of those work, creating a rousing experience that flies higher than DC has in a very long time."

Superman is now available on HBO Max, Digital, and 4K Ultra HD, Blu-ray, and DVD.

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CyberNigerian
CyberNigerian - 9/24/2025, 12:16 PM
Where is this Supergirl trailer?
UltimaRex
UltimaRex - 9/24/2025, 12:29 PM
@CyberNigerian - closer to Christmas/New Years?
mountainman
mountainman - 9/24/2025, 12:17 PM
I’m pretty sure a bad guy kicking a super dog who would have recovered afterwards would have been totally fine to keep in.
Kadara
Kadara - 9/24/2025, 12:24 PM
@mountainman - No sane person would want to watch a dog getting kicked ever. In whatever depiction. I hope you are doing well my friend.
mastakilla39
mastakilla39 - 9/24/2025, 12:30 PM
@Kadara - Its just a movie. People's reaction remind me of that scene from Atlanta tv show.
thedrudo
thedrudo - 9/24/2025, 12:42 PM
@Kadara - Agreed. What we got in this movie was bad enough. I hate seeing that stuff and I hate certain things involving kids now after having two little girls of my own.
mountainman
mountainman - 9/24/2025, 1:17 PM
@Kadara - I’m doing just fine. Just over here being completely sane owning two dogs that are incredibly loved. Such a weird hang up to have since villains do bad stuff and we literally saw an innocent man get shot in the head in this movie.
Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 9/24/2025, 1:18 PM
@Kadara - speak for yourself ,here in Uttar Pradesh we love that stuff
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 9/24/2025, 1:23 PM
@mountainman - I mean, Michael Rosenbaum was in Urban Legends where someone stuck his dog in a microwave to die. Doesn't seem to be a lot of backlash from that moment still.
Polaris
Polaris - 9/24/2025, 1:47 PM
@mountainman - I've thinking about why seeing an animal getting hurt feels more real/worse than seeing a person get hurt and I believe it may be because animals don't know what a movie is and didn't choose to be there and how can we be sure they're not hurting them for real? In the past they have, so even when the animal is cgi we subconsciously fear it may be really happening.
It happens with children too, as they also don't know or understand what a movie is and are way more vulnerable than an ault actor that chose to play that role.
Polaris
Polaris - 9/24/2025, 1:47 PM
Adult actor*
Kadara
Kadara - 9/24/2025, 2:08 PM
@mountainman - I pray for your dogs.
emeraldtaurus
emeraldtaurus - 9/24/2025, 3:18 PM
@mountainman - hard to tell these days ....society has gone so "hippy".
mountainman
mountainman - 9/24/2025, 3:35 PM
@Kadara - Why would you do that? They live pampered and wonderful lives and have never been kicked. Seems weird to overreact this way about me being ok with a villain kicking a CGI super dog in a fictional movie.

I’ll tell my two dogs that you are praying for them. They won’t care. The older one turns 6 next week and we will throw her a wonderful birthday party. She will enjoy her cake from the doggie bakery that we get her each year.
SpideyQuad
SpideyQuad - 9/24/2025, 3:48 PM
@Kadara - Oooooh yeahhhhh
Kadara
Kadara - 9/24/2025, 3:49 PM
@mountainman - Jeez Lois that was tongue in cheek lol! I should really start adding emojis to my dry sarcasm 😂
mountainman
mountainman - 9/24/2025, 4:21 PM
@Kadara - User Comment Image
Kadara
Kadara - 9/24/2025, 5:01 PM
@mountainman - 😂😂
CrimsonComet40
CrimsonComet40 - 9/24/2025, 12:18 PM
"I am a big Superman fan. I don't want to change important, integral things"

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Gunn has daddy issues, so Superman must have daddy issues. This dude can only write stuff that applies to himself and I say that as someone who liked Guardians and SS.
mastakilla39
mastakilla39 - 9/24/2025, 12:44 PM
@CrimsonComet40 - Does Gunn have daddy issues? He said this film was dedicated to his father and thats who Pa Kent is based on. The most important message is that each individual gets to choose who they want to be not their parents or how they raised them. Thought Gunn created a better message rather than just trying to stick to the generic source material of just being an alien baby from a random planet.
whoknows
whoknows - 9/24/2025, 2:09 PM
@CrimsonComet40 - he didn’t change anything integral, just based on the story told and how Superman grew up believing in the incomplete message, that keeps what integral intact. He still grew up believing he was a beacon of hope in sense(parapharsing cuz I can’t remember the initial speech.) and then him choosing to uplift his earthly parents for their morals and ideals is sweet and again, keeps normal super man
Baf
Baf - 9/24/2025, 2:47 PM
@CrimsonComet40 - Superman's space father being a bad guy is not nearly as integral to Superman's character as the way his Earth father died.
SheepishOne
SheepishOne - 9/24/2025, 5:56 PM
@CrimsonComet40 - Most (and I’d argue the best) writers write from experience. I’m sure all of your favorite writers do the same thing.
TheNewYorkerr
TheNewYorkerr - 9/24/2025, 12:18 PM
Faora-Ul (2013) would mop Gunn’s “Superman”
CrimsonComet40
CrimsonComet40 - 9/24/2025, 12:19 PM
@TheNewYorkerr -

Gunn can't win a fight, so Superman can't win a fight as the egomaniac can only write himself.
MisterBones
MisterBones - 9/24/2025, 12:21 PM
"...Ultraman punching Krypto in the Fortress was cut because test audiences thought he'd killed the Superdog."

He's a SUPER dog...he would've been healed fine
kseven
kseven - 9/24/2025, 12:22 PM
Gunn gets the point of the characters. Being from Krypton is just the explanation for the powers, nothing else. Being Clark is the explanation for everything else. Kal El is why he has powers, but being Clark is why he uses those powers to create the Superman persona. Gunn's twist only emphasizes this, it is great to see the movies finally get this right. I'm glad Gunn is doubling down and not changing it.

Now if only we could get Clark creating the S symbol and costume like in the comics instead of coming from Krypton, then they will really be getting it right.
spr0cks
spr0cks - 9/24/2025, 12:34 PM
@kseven -

This is what's known as "pick-and-choose" nonsensical revisionism.
You're just picking and choosing which part of the comic lore you want to use to fit your current narrative (or rather Gunn's reasoning, since it seems he does your thinking for you Gunnboys too).

To claim that being from Krypton is just the explanacation for his powers is simply put patently and nonsensically wrong and flat out false, because many times its been pointed out in the comics that he gets a large part of his sense of morality and justice not just from Jor-El but also his sense of identity from his Kryptonian heritage - including their failure as a society.

It's part of the story of the duality of Superman's character in getting his humanity from his human parents and his sense of moral justice from his Kryptonian parents, and how both parts work together to make him who he is without either one being lesser or more important than the other.
Good writers over the years have gotten this aspect of Superman.

A terrible write like Gunn (who literally admitted and stated he doesn't know how to write "god-like" character like Thor in the MCU - hence explaining his difficulties with understanding Superman) doesn't.

And the "pick-and-choose" aspect of your reasoning is no better lain out by how you want to have him create the S symbol as happens in the comics, but then think it's okay to ignore and dismiss the parts of the same comics that emphasize why his Kryptonian heritage and identity as well as his parentage from Jor-El is important
UltimaRex
UltimaRex - 9/24/2025, 12:36 PM
@spr0cks - what's your excuse?
JackDeth
JackDeth - 9/24/2025, 12:51 PM
@spr0cks - Nah, it ain't that deep. Also, you're taking Gunn's words out of context. He's not a terrible writer. Hasn't had a miss yet, so that's dumb. The most important aspect of Superman is his kindness, which comes from his wholesome midwestern upbringing. Jor-El is just the sperm donor.
TheNameIsWayne
TheNameIsWayne - 9/24/2025, 12:52 PM
@spr0cks - Morality and sense of justice came from the Kents. That trait is not inherited. It came from his upbringing which they showed.
Forthas
Forthas - 9/24/2025, 12:53 PM
@spr0cks - Very well stated!!!!
kseven
kseven - 9/24/2025, 1:11 PM
@spr0cks - In Siegel & Shuster's version, Superman didn't even know he was from Krypton. Nobody on earth did. How would they?

Clark grew up entirely believing he was from earth and unsure of why he had powers but chose to use them for good anyway and create the Superman persona.

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The S symbol was always an S in the comics that Clark created until the mid 2000s when Mark Waid retconned it as the alien hope glyph, which makes no sense.

The S symbol coming from Krypton started in the first Reeve film to accomodate actor Marlon Brando who insisted on wearing the S, and Jor El's role as well as the overemphasis on Krypton were done to accomodate his casting, even though they ran contrary to the comics.

His creators got the character right the first time, and in Superman's creators' stories, being from Krypton is just the explanation for the powers, nothing else.

Superman artist Jon Bogdanove explained it perfectly:

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spr0cks
spr0cks - 9/24/2025, 2:47 PM
@UltimaRex -
Excuse for what?
spr0cks
spr0cks - 9/24/2025, 3:03 PM
@kseven -

I love the fact that as part of your response, you basically quote another James Gunn apologist who has to write out an entire treatise to explain Gunn's retcon and try to justify him making this nonsensical change.

And since you bring Siegel & Shuster into this (with the implication being that we should stick with that version of Superman they created), The Superman character they created couldn't fly.

In fact, Superman didn't fly until the 1940's - almost a decade after Siegel & Shuster created him.

So I guess in the interest of narrative and lore purity we should stick to that version of Superman? Or nah?

You see what I mean when I say you people are just a "pick-and-choose" clownshow of retconning?

Why is it important to incuding Superman's ability to fly - something that was introduced long after he was created by later writers (by accident, I might add),.....along with his knowledge and connection to Krypton - but then when it comes to portraying the importance of his Kryptonian heritage and background as has been linearly aligned by most writers and creators over the ages, suddenly it's not important to do what the comics did?

Also, here's another problem you run into if you decide you want to make Superman adhere to the comics accuracy of what the original creators created (in addition to having a Superman who can't fly):-

"Superman wasn’t always the goody two-shoes we know him to be today; in fact, the original version was a villainous character. In January 1933, comic book writer Jerry Siegel published a short story titled “The Reign of the Superman” in an edition of Science Fiction. It centered around an evil supervillain with telepathic abilities who was dead set on world domination. The story also featured illustrations from Siegel’s friend and comic book artist Joe Shuster, but it wasn’t the smash hit they hoped it to be. In the wake of Adolf Hitler’s rise to power that same year, Siegel, who was Jewish, reimagined the “super man” as a force for good. The duo got to work on a new comic featuring the Superman character as a hero."

From:-
Classic City News, Sep 28, 2024
LibraMatter
LibraMatter - 9/24/2025, 4:14 PM
@spr0cks - With every iteration of Superman it creates more “optional” lore to choose from that can be seen as still being within the lines of who Superman/Clark loosely is. Kind, strong, great mortality and values, can be killed or harmed with Kryptonite… I think all films about superheroes won’t have every aspect of every run of the comics so you kind of have to pick and choose. You have no choice to do that as a writer. There isn’t one distinct form of Superman. There are different aspects of him that writers add or choose to ignore so filmmakers do the same. It’s a given. James did a great job with the character and made him relevant, modern and gave him those Superman qualities and the look.
WalletsClosed
WalletsClosed - 9/24/2025, 4:31 PM
@kseven - This is Gunntard GunNut false propaganda and spr0cks obliterated it. Nice try
WalletsClosed
WalletsClosed - 9/24/2025, 4:34 PM
@LibraMatter - You don't have to pick and choose in the slightest actually
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