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@Variant - Ms Marvel and She-Hulk weren't even actually divisive outside of Twitter and shitty website comments sections. They're simply widely considered to be good-to-great.

@Variant - The truth of the matter sounds a lot like an opinion, ironically enough.

Sure a lot of people liked Ms Marvel and She-Hulk. But a lot of people hated them too.

And Ms Marvel was the lowest watched show on D+ until Secret Invasion. Which is even worse, really, because that means people didn't even care enough to bother checking it out.

@Variant - the white knighting is strong in you 🤣

@Variant - let's see, speak my mind or defend secret invasion...

Ps. I specifically chose that because you actually said you didn't like it, but still went on to defend it. The fanboy is too strong in you.

@Origame - 🙄😄 SERIOUSLY!!!




You send a joke about its time to stop, and this guy chimes in like you're the problem.


Face it Variant: the shows are not great, or good. They have hollow dialog, forgettable arcs, and miminual consequences. If you are interested in them- GOOD FOR YOU.

It's not cool to get this defensive when others are not so invested. To myself and many others, this is unimportant, uninteresting, no replay value, time wasters. Let it go.

@Origame -

@KennKathleen - perfectly said

@Origame - None of that was backpedaling. It was clarifying because you've proven you have zero reading comprehension. I NEVER said I didn't like it. Yes, I was disappointed it wasn't better, but all in all I still liked it okay. That's really not hard to understand.

And no, I've never seen you praise anything in the MCU. I literally only ever see you whine. AND you have that reputation here. So it's not just me. You make yourself look like that.

@Variant - 1) well maybe if you actually said you liked it instead of calling it a disappointment. @mountainman, if someone calls something a disappointment, and that's all they say on the matter, would you think the guy likes it?

2) we've been over this. I have and will continue to praise everything guardians of the galaxy related. That's been consistently good and didn't change by phase 5. I've also praised black panther, hence my issue with the new movie being that they didn't recast tchalla and just threw away that whole story arc. I've praised iron man1, winter soldier, all the avengers especially infinity war. Seriously, I've even praised this sh!t on articles you've commented on. Hell, you even commented on one of them acting surprised I was actually praising something. But instead of admitting you were wrong about me, you just insisted I did that to save face.

Meanwhile you still can't say anything bad about the mcu beyond one of the shows was kinda disappointing but still good. You're a shill and a fanboy. A toxic one at that.

@Origame - "Disappointing" is relative. It simply means it fell short of my expectations. But it didn't fall so short that I utterly disliked it. You are trying to twist my words here and intentionally ignore all context I've ever given to my comments.

Also, I'm not sure why you're bringing @mountainman into this. He and I actually have productive discourse despite having differing opinions. You know, that thing I've told you about. That you don't always have to just position yourself as a whiney little brat...

As for being a shill and a fanboy. Um, I'm a fan, yes. Just a normal fan. And last time I checked we're on a CBM site. If there's one place for me to come and express my enjoyment for Marvel films it would be here. So I think you're confused...

And lastly, do you see how you ridiculous you sound? You're blaming me for not saying anything bad... How miserable of a person must you be to take issue with that. But also, it's not even true. I'm just a positive person who enjoys life. I don't sit here and dwell on the things that bother me about the film franchise I like. But truth be told, there are a ton of things that annoy me throughout all the projects. Ready for this?

- Thor 2 was boring as hell; way worse than Eternals.
- Cap's suit in Avengers 1 was corny.
- Iron Man, the face of the franchise, had the worst trilogy. Iron Man 2 and 3 didn't age well at all.
- Hulk's arc was shaping up to be pretty epic then fell off with smart Hulk; he desperately needs a redemption arc that is hopefully in the works since Marvel Studios supposedly got distribution rights back.
- The MCU has a bad habit of killing villains way too soon.
- The "backstory" to how Nick Fury lost his eye is absolutely fvcking stupid. And the writers are idiots for thinking that was funny.
- Thor 4 went overboard with the humor
- MODOK was poorly designed and the worst part of AM3
- She-Hulk was a good show but had disconcertingly bad CGI in a lot of parts

I'm sure I could find a few more things but the big picture here is this: the list I could write about the things I love about the MCU is significantly longer. I don't expect the MCU to be perfect; I can look past the few issues it has because the amount of positive takeaways is much greater. And the fact that all of Phase 4 reviews, by consensus, better than Phase 1 and 2, tells me the people being dramatic about the MCU aren't taking an objective look at this.

And at the end of the day, it's just really not that hard to not complain so much. No one likes a complainer.